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hd4me2
08-03-2004, 08:26 AM
Is the HD Monday night fooball game broadcast in a 16:9 format?

Splicer
08-03-2004, 08:29 AM
We shall soon see ;) . Seriously, I think it depends on which market one lives in as to if it will be HD or not. I would certainly imagine it would be broadcast in true HD which would give the full 16:9 picture.

57U
08-03-2004, 08:40 AM
It was HD last year.

mfabien
08-03-2004, 08:43 AM
Is the HD Monday night fooball game broadcast in a 16:9 format?

Here in Montreal I had it in HD via Boston when I had ExpressVu satellite hookup. And it was super quality coverage including the flying over field camera shots (which 57U says to be in 480i ??).

Now with cable, my feed comes from Detroit and expect it to be the very same coverage. And this year I'll be able to record the Monday night games with my SA8000HD DVR and view the game on Tuesday morning if I need to retire early or get sleepy.

durl
08-03-2004, 11:36 AM
HD is always 16:9 isn't it?

57U
08-03-2004, 11:52 AM
Yes, but sometimes a 2.35:1 movie may be shown on an HD channel.

Anjaword
08-03-2004, 03:54 PM
It was here in Baltimore I loved it especially when i watch that Bucs vs Colts game (the incredible comeback) enjoyed every minute of it.

Splicer
08-03-2004, 04:03 PM
I am not a huge sports fan, but I must admit I am looking forward to football! GO BENGALS!!!

Brewer4
08-04-2004, 08:07 AM
Bengals? This is what I love about football. The Bengals actually have a team that can compete and win. Its not like baseball where the Yankees have a 75% chance to win it all almost every year. You go Splicer.

Go Patriots!

Boom Boom
08-04-2004, 11:26 AM
I've read that that directtv will broadcast the Olympics in HD. Also, they plan on showing 100 games in HD on NFL package. Has anyone heard whether or not Directv plans to air ABC MNF in HD this year?

mjones73
08-04-2004, 12:04 PM
I've read that that directtv will broadcast the Olympics in HD. Also, they plan on showing 100 games in HD on NFL package. Has anyone heard whether or not Directv plans to air ABC MNF in HD this year?

They don't carry ABC HD and the MNF games are not part of the Sunday Ticket, only the 1:00 PM and 4:00 PM EST games.

Boom Boom
08-04-2004, 03:59 PM
That's too bad....Maybe next year. I was hoping to avoid OTA, but I live for MNF. Go 'skins.

JEFFDUBE
08-08-2004, 11:59 PM
You can get the game off the air in HD if it is broadcast in HDTV....All 2003 games were...I hope they expand and don't retract like CBS did on their golf.

JEFFDUBE
08-09-2004, 12:02 AM
Why is it such a mystery as to whether telecasts are going to be in HDTV anyway!!! :mic:

kevinw
08-09-2004, 08:03 AM
Here y'all go..
http://www.abcmedianet.com/pressrel/dispDNR.html?id=041404_11#

"MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL" CELEBRATES ITS 35th ANNIVERSARY SEASON WITH A BLOCKBUSTER SCHEDULE, INCLUDING THE OPENING NFL GAME OF THE SEASON


Game Slate Includes Multiple Appearances by League's Elite: Super Bowl Champion Patriots,
NFC East Champion Eagles, NFC Central Champion Packers & the Resurgent Cowboys



ABC's NFL "Monday Night Football," the most successful and longest-running primetime sports series in television history, celebrates its 35th anniversary with a blockbuster schedule for 2004, it was announced today by George Bodenheimer, president of ABC Sports and ESPN, Inc.

The elite teams in the NFL will have multiple appearances on "Monday Night Football" this fall, including three each by the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, the NFC Central champion Green Bay Packers, the NFC East champion Philadelphia Eagles, the AFC West champion Kansas City Chiefs, the NFC West champion St. Louis Rams and the resurgent Dallas Cowboys who, under Bill Parcells, qualified for the playoffs last season for the first time since 1999. Every playoff team from last season will appear on MNF this year.

Emmy Award-winning announcer Al Michaels returns for his 19th consecutive season as the play-by-play voice of "Monday Night Football." Joining him for his third season on MNF is the legendary John Madden. Both Michaels and Madden were nominated for Emmy Awards again this year.

"'Monday Night Football' is a great American sports institution due to the quality of its schedule and the unique way ABC Sports has presented the games to the viewers," said Mr. Bodenheimer. "It is fitting that, for our 35th anniversary season, the NFL has once again given ABC Sports a terrific schedule of games featuring the league's best teams and the top television markets. In this historic year, we are thrilled to be able to have the legendary announce team of Al Michaels and John Madden continue to provide their special insights, knowledge and humor to our coverage of this great schedule of games."

The 2004 MNF campaign begins with the opening NFL game of the season, as the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, led by two-time Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady, host NFL co-MVP Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts in a rematch of last season's AFC Championship Game on THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9. The 2003 schedule continues on MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, as the NFC champion Carolina Panthers host Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers.

The schedule continues as Randy Moss and the Minnesota Vikings return to "Monday Night Football" for the first time in three years, traveling to Philadelphia to take on Donovan McNabb and the NFC East champion Eagles on SEPTEMBER 20. That's followed by a fierce NFC East battle when the Washington Redskins host Bill Parcells and his Dallas Cowboys on SEPTEMBER 27. On OCTOBER 4 Ray Lewis and the AFC North champion Baltimore Ravens host Priest Holmes and the AFC West champion Kansas City Chiefs.

In addition to the AFC Championship rematch with the Colts, the Super Bowl champion Patriots travel to Kansas City to take on the Chiefs on NOVEMBER 22, and travel to Miami to meet the Dolphins on DECEMBER 20 in a key AFC East match-up.

The Cincinnati Bengals host the Denver Broncos on OCTOBER 25. On OCTOBER 18 the St. Louis Rams and Tampa Bay Buccaneers meet for the fourth time in five years on MNF. On NOVEMBER 1 the game between the Miami Dolphins and the New York Jets is a rematch of what was voted the greatest "Monday Night Football" game ever. In that game in 2000, the Jets came back from a 23-point 4th-quarter deficit to defeat the Dolphins in the "Miracle at the Meadowlands". On NOVEMBER 29 the Green Bay Packers host the St. Louis Rams at Lambeau field in what could be QB Brett Favre's 200th consecutive game played. The MNF season wraps up on DECEMBER 27 with two of the top teams in the NFC, as Marshall Faulk and the St. Louis Rams host the Philadelphia Eagles.

The schedule continues with a wild-card playoff doubleheader on SATURDAY, JAN. 8, 2005.

During last football season "Monday Night Football" finished 3rd among all primetime shows on network television, the highest-ranking in the history of the series. It was in the top-10 among all primetime sows for the 14th consecutive season, and finished first in the key male demographics.

All "Monday Night Football" games will be broadcast in HDTV.

The following is the 2004 ABC NFL "Monday Night Football" schedule:
(All games air Mondays at 9:00 p.m., ET., except where noted)


SEPTEMBER 9 Indianapolis Colts vs. New England Patriots (Thursday Night)
SEPTEMBER 13 Green Bay Packers vs. Carolina Panthers
SEPTEMBER 20 Minnesota Vikings vs. Philadelphia Eagles
SEPTEMBER 27 Dallas Cowboys vs. Washington Redskins
OCTOBER 4 Kansas City Chiefs vs. Baltimore Ravens
OCTOBER 11 Tennessee Titans vs. Green Bay Packers
OCTOBER 18 Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. St. Louis Rams
OCTOBER 25 Denver Broncos vs. Cincinnati Bengals
NOVEMBER 1 Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets
NOVEMBER 8 Minnesota Vikings vs. Indianapolis Colts
NOVEMBER 15 Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys
NOVEMBER 22 New England Patriots vs. Kansas City Chiefs
NOVEMBER 29 St. Louis Rams vs. Green Bay Packers
DECEMBER 6 Dallas Cowboys vs. Seattle Seahawks
DECEMBER 13 Kansas City Chiefs vs. Tennessee Titans
DECEMBER 20 New England Patriots vs. Miami Dolphins
DECEMBER 27 Philadelphia Eagles vs. St. Louis Rams

SATURDAY, JANUARY 8, 2005 NFL Playoff Doubleheader


ABC Sports Media Relations Contact:
Adam Freifeld (212) 456-4878

mfabien
08-09-2004, 10:31 AM
Tonight's pre-season game on ABC is in ETV (not HD). Broncos vs Red Skins.

poley
08-09-2004, 10:52 AM
On the commercial her in Houston they show the HD symbol below the MNF sign at the end. So I beleive it will be just like last year.

summerfun
08-09-2004, 12:12 PM
Tonight's pre-season game on ABC is in ETV (not HD). Broncos vs Red Skins.
I doubt any pre season games will be HD.

BFG
08-09-2004, 12:32 PM
Tonight's Game will be in HD ;)

LRK84
08-09-2004, 01:12 PM
I doubt any pre season games will be HD.

There are preseason games on ESPNHD also.

ESPN HD Schedule (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvlistings/espnhd/index)

PtotheDOdoubleG
08-09-2004, 02:36 PM
Tonight's game is in ETV, not HDTV. Just checked the abc schedule.

raidbuck
08-09-2004, 03:41 PM
I believe it is in HD, at least that's what others are saying. Did they mention "Enhanced TV" ? That has nothing to do with the resolution, it's a feature you access through abc.com.

Rich N.

PtotheDOdoubleG
08-09-2004, 03:46 PM
Ya, sorry your right. I knew that ETV was just a internet thing. Just checked TV guide and it's listed at HDTV. Can't wait, one of the real reasons I got my set was to watch football. Just hope comcast gets FOX.

kevinw
08-09-2004, 03:50 PM
It's HD
http://www.titantv.com/TTV/Grid/Grid.aspx

kevinw
08-09-2004, 03:55 PM
It is that time of year again. Lets talk about how your PQ is. Are the cheers blowing up your sound system? Are you blown away by football in HD?Was the game even interesting?
Lets talk about it and keep it right here for easy discussions.

mfabien
08-09-2004, 04:03 PM
Tonight's Game will be in HD ;)

See this : http://abc.go.com/site/hdtvfaq.html and click "Schedule". You see ETV not HDTV. Compare with another night.

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:03 PM
I can let you know when the game is actually in HD. Tonights pre-game is ED :( ...Or is it???

BFG
08-09-2004, 04:13 PM
Tonights game is in HD

The only problem I see having is my station doesn't have the proper flag for their audio (it comes across as DD 6.1) and it's really low

BFG
08-09-2004, 04:16 PM
no, ETV is there interactive website...

It will be in HD, they just didn't have room for noth logo's on that schedule :)

raidbuck
08-09-2004, 04:16 PM
Ya, sorry your right. I knew that ETV was just a internet thing. Just checked TV guide and it's listed at HDTV. Can't wait, one of the real reasons I got my set was to watch football. Just hope comcast gets FOX.

If you put your location in your profile I can be more specific in responding to your wishes about Fox. For if your Fox station is owned by Sinclair, you will not have it in HD on Comcast. And if your Fox station is owned by Cox, then you probably won't have Fox on Comcast.

Sinclair has not reached agreement with any major cable company about carrying its channel's HD signal. They want to be paid and have a markedly different agreement than Comcast has with other channels.

I'm in Baltimore and just out of luck. I've spoken to representatives from both sides and it is very grim, very little hope by Sep 12 with Fox goes HD.

Rich N.

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:28 PM
COOL!!! :D :D :D now will it be 5.1 or 6.1 or does it make a difference as I only have 5.1???

mfabien
08-09-2004, 04:28 PM
no, ETV is there interactive website...

It will be in HD, they just didn't have room for noth logo's on that schedule :)

Well I'm recording it and trust you are right.

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:33 PM
Go Bronco's :rockon: !!!

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:40 PM
Uh, dudes...I think mfabien is correct. Click on his link and then click schedules then next to tonites game in orange is ETV. Click the ETV and read the page that comes up...Then click on 'about ETV' and it clearly states MNF is ETV...

kevinw
08-09-2004, 04:43 PM
ETV has nothing to do with the resolution... It is strictly internet It means Enhanced TV
http://heavy.etv.go.com/etvHome/

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:44 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh...So then what is EDTV???

Splicer
08-09-2004, 04:46 PM
Nevermind :redface: ...I LUV this site :rockon: !!!Learn so much here :D ...

kevinw
08-09-2004, 04:47 PM
http://www.projectorcentral.com/video_signals.htm
google can be your best friend

BFG
08-09-2004, 05:47 PM
The game is 5.1, I was stating that my station sends out the wrong flag which is a matrixed 6.1, I guess it doens't mess it up to much, they just need to fix the audio level

wankertank
08-09-2004, 06:20 PM
I wish I could watch the Game in HDTV...I only get CBS in HD here in Tally. Hopefully ABC will get on the ball in time for FSU vs. Miami on labor day weekend...I cant wait to watch college and NFL in HD. How sweet its gonna be!

Splicer
08-09-2004, 06:48 PM
Need to learn some more ;) . Are all ABC ETV programs HD???

BFG
08-09-2004, 07:01 PM
No, ETV and HD aren't related. ETV has nothing to do with the video on ABC. It's like a Trivia ype interactive thing on abc.com It's also been used for things like Millionaire etc...

Splicer
08-09-2004, 07:16 PM
Right, I realize that but does ABC use ETV for programming other than and including HDTV???

Splicer
08-09-2004, 07:23 PM
The reason I am asking is that if you look at ABC schedule, shows in HDTV are noted as such. Tonites game only states ETV, but not the HDTV. There was room directly under or over the ETV notation.

hawk
08-09-2004, 07:51 PM
todays usa today had an ad in it for tonights game it had the ABCHD logo on it...so it's definitely in HDTV

Splicer
08-09-2004, 07:58 PM
All righty tighty!!! I am psyched now!!! Thankyou for clearing that up for me!!!

Bhay99
08-09-2004, 08:21 PM
Anyone watching it in HD, theres no sound coming from the commentators.....but it looks good

kidslice
08-09-2004, 08:26 PM
I have sound but the lip sync is way off. Looks like they have delay on the audio but not on the video. Probably tring to catch the F-bomb so the FCC does not fine them.

Bhay99
08-09-2004, 08:28 PM
hmmm, i still have no sound from madden or al here in chicago, weird

MICKEY T
08-09-2004, 08:29 PM
same same
comcast, chicago

kidslice
08-09-2004, 08:31 PM
I am having major lip sync issues, like they have an audio delay in line. Maybe they do so they can catch the F-bomb should someone on the sidelines slip... better watch out or the ole' FCC will get em....

Casey
08-09-2004, 08:33 PM
not in hd in st louis :(

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:37 PM
Well I think it sucks :eek: ...For some insane unknown reason I get audio and video on my HD channel of ABC and it is in sync but the picture is 4:3 :boo2: and the audio is pro-logic/stereo :mad: ...Whats up with this??? My local (out of cincinnati) ABC is HD compliant. Or at least it is according to that antenna dot com site...The black bars are too distracting (not to mention I get a thin perfectly green line on the left side of the picture only on ABC that goes from top to bottom of the screen) to watch the game. I am SO SO disappointed. So much so that I am watching some Burt Reynolds movie instead. The analogue ABC is simply horrible, watchable but it makes me disgusted to...So much for my very first football game on this set...If this is the way it is going to be, screw it. And HDTV...This is no way to get the HD format pushed ahead... :boo2:

Bhay99
08-09-2004, 08:39 PM
NOW they turned on the audio and stopped showing it in HD, what the hell is going on!

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:41 PM
wanker, doesn't sound like it is all it was cracked up to be. I only get a 4:3 screen and pro-logic sound...And the picture is in no way HD. The Brickyard 400 looked more like HD than this crap...Sorry...Just ticked as this is the very first game I have seen on my set and have been so looking forward to tonite that I even went out and bought a bottle and I normally do not drink! I am VERY disappointed and let down...

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:43 PM
OK...Now I have the full screen but still pro-logic sound...And it looks as if it MAY be in HD...

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:47 PM
looks like ABC is using the color sidebars for 4:3 flashback videos but not on the commercials like NBC did with the Brickyard race...

BFG
08-09-2004, 08:48 PM
Let's move all comments over to this thread since it's the official one ;)

http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=11340

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:51 PM
OK, got the 16:9 pic now but still no 5.1....

keith1229
08-09-2004, 08:54 PM
i got both 16:9 and 5.1. sounds great. i thought some people were congregating outside my house `cause the ambient sound of the fans was perfect. god i love HD, and i love football. what a combo.

keith1229
08-09-2004, 08:55 PM
well, no sound from the commentators sounds like a dream to me, but i can hear them

swimrick52
08-09-2004, 08:57 PM
Sound appears to be in synch here in DFW, Tx area broadcast. Great HD picture!!

yomama
08-09-2004, 08:57 PM
Watching in Atlanta OTA and it looks great...sounds is great too :love2:

Splicer
08-09-2004, 08:59 PM
sound is synched, just pro logic...

Splicer
08-09-2004, 09:04 PM
OK...lost ALL sound AND picture in 4:3!!! Wait...The screen just filled and the sound back on...Very disturbing and takes away from the game itself...Yes I am drinking ;) ...

kevinw
08-09-2004, 09:07 PM
Let's move all comments over to this thread since it's the official one ;)

http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=11340
Merged for everyones convenience

Splicer
08-09-2004, 09:32 PM
Seems the bugs are worked out. No green line, full screen picture...Boring game...still no 5.1 but I am sure that is WCPO's (Cincinnati channel 9) fault not ABC's...

dmlove
08-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Mine looks like it's trying to be in HD, but it's totally pixelated and unwatchable (SF Bay Area).

Splicer
08-09-2004, 10:24 PM
You really are not missing much dmlove...BORING game...Field goals only...And they sure as hell aren't showing the cheerleaders the way they used to :boo2: ...But by golly Madden is sure shooting his yap off like there was no tomorrow...Never really realized before just how annoying his voice is :whistle: ...

Casey
08-09-2004, 10:47 PM
they switched on the hd during halftime looks great now

summerfun
08-10-2004, 12:07 AM
I turned on the game during the second quarter and it was HD and 5.1 the whole time with no problems. It could have been local issues for those of you with problems. Can't tell you what it was the first quarter.

PtotheDOdoubleG
08-10-2004, 09:41 AM
My picture was great here in Pittsburgh using comcast. Only thing was, the volume was really really low and it was only in Pro Logic. Hopefully the will fix out all the kinks before the real games start. Figures, my first HDTV set and no steelers on monday night. :mad:

mfabien
08-10-2004, 09:49 AM
...But by golly Madden is sure shooting his yap off like there was no tomorrow...Never really realized before just how annoying his voice is :whistle: ...

John Madden may not have an "FM" voice (it's not any worse than Howard Cosell's voice was, if you ask me) but is there any other broadcaster who knows his football and the players more than Madden? Bradshaw? Sanders? Who?

Splicer
08-10-2004, 09:55 AM
Good point about the knowledge. Madden sure knows his football...But as for Howard Cosell, I was less than enthusiastic with the nasal sound that eminated from him...

hd4me2
08-10-2004, 10:01 AM
ABC did not disappoint us last night. It truely was a beautiful broadcast.

durl
08-10-2004, 11:10 AM
Everything looked good OTA where I live. PQ was good even though it appeared that my local was having some transmission issues during the first half...momentary freezes/pixelation at fixed intervals. My receiver was decoding the audio as 5.1 but there was no sound coming from my rear speakers. I was OK with that since it was HD.

Regarding Madden's voice, I think he has a good voice for TV. He's the best color man in football in my opinion.

Splicer
08-10-2004, 11:25 AM
Oh, I am not saying Madden isn't one of the best for the job by any means.

In pro-logic I did have kinda sound from the rears but the center was all pro logic. I flipped it to stereo and had a better surround experience IMHO. The audio definitely came across as Digital as the Digital light on my Onkyo was lit up. The audio from NBC's brickyard was also pro-logic and sounded pretty damn good actually.

The video however between NBC's Brickyard 400 NASCAR race and ABC's Monday Night Football was virtually indistinguishable with the favor in NBC's corner. To me, in my completely honest opinion, ABC's HD was not nearly as detailed as NBC's wide screen SD (I was told it was not HD even though it certainly appeared to me that it was, it was that good). I had alot of herring bones in the marker stripes on the field from the Goodyear Blimp aerial shots.

Don't get me wrong, the game was excellant at the end, down to the gun even but the picture, while stupendous, was just not enough to 'WOW' me the way NBC did. I am soooooooooooooo hyped for NBC to do the Olympics :rockon: !!!

summerfun
08-10-2004, 11:56 AM
You know how you can tell the difference between SD, ED and HD....

SD, you can see the stands.

ED, you can see people in the stands.

HD, you can see the mustard stain on a guy's shirt in the stands.

az-willie
08-10-2004, 03:03 PM
Last night I watched ( some ) of the game on ABC here in Phoenix on my Mitsi 55". It started off with a small bar down the left side < about 3/4 inch > and a larger bar down the right side < maybe 1 1/2 inch >.

I put it in expanded mode to get rid of the damn bars.

After awhile I checked and it was now full screen without the expanded mode.

But the picture seemed strange. It bothered my eyes to watch it. I don't know what it was about it or why it bothered me. I've watched HD on CBS and PBS and it's great but somehow the picture on ABC sucked big time. I turned it off just before halftime ... couldn't watch it anymore.

Did anyone else have problems with it?

Casey
08-23-2004, 01:00 PM
chiefs and rams tonite in hd. my two favorite teams!!

newf
08-23-2004, 09:18 PM
I'm watching rhe game now kc,stl man the pixels and jumping is so bad switching to SD.It's my first M.N.F. experience is this common with live sports. :sobbing:

MrJ412
08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
Although I'm not watching, the game looked great here in KC when channel surfing ... now if only the rain will stay away ... its moving this way, hope it waits until after the game :-)

Splicer
08-23-2004, 09:36 PM
Just turned it on and it looks great here. No pixelation...

newf
08-23-2004, 09:40 PM
Just watching the shadows when camera view from top you can see the shadows jumping,think it could be my provider,videotron illico cable.

Blaster
08-23-2004, 10:36 PM
MNF just realized ABC in 720p,stb was on 1080i
switched stb to 720p and can't tell even the smallest diff . . .
also never get 5.1 here for MNF ???

summerfun
08-24-2004, 12:18 AM
I just leave my STB on 1080i all the time. I get great PQ and you don't get screen flicker swithcing channels between signal changes.

Blaster
08-24-2004, 10:03 PM
yes , I always just leave my stb in 1080 mode
was just during MNF , in here last nite , thought I would monkey around and see if I could tell any diff (none) will just leave in 1080 ; no complaints w/PQ here... : )

51gator50
01-01-2005, 10:16 PM
ok i have watched numerous bowl games on abc in hd and the sound is dead on. no problem hearing the announcers like on mnf where the crowd noise drowns out the announcers. what is the problem with mnf?

mfabien
01-02-2005, 06:46 AM
ok i have watched numerous bowl games on abc in hd and the sound is dead on. no problem hearing the announcers like on mnf where the crowd noise drowns out the announcers. what is the problem with mnf?

Whenever we get a shot of Al Michaels and John Maden, I get the sense that there little "studio" is surrounded by part of the audience in a tight fit...and that in every NFL stadium. Therefore the sound engineer must increase the volume of their mikes over the ambient sound.

Doubt College football stadiums have similar conditions in accommodating a suite for television announcers.

humdinger70
01-04-2005, 05:02 PM
Well, we can find out this Saturday. Al and John are doing the Jets/Chargers playoff game at 8 PM EST/5PM PST.

           


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