View Full Version : Pani DVD-S97S vs. sony DVP-NS975V
Chris_pwnz
11-29-2004, 11:57 PM
What are the differances, which is better?
if you have either one i would like to know how you like it, what u like about it, and what you dont like about it.
also, if you no a good place to purchase it/were u got it, please include that. thanks alot.
brector
11-30-2004, 10:20 AM
Not to be a pain - but have you looked at the Denon 1910? I have this player and love it. It is cheaper than the sony and I *think* it is a hair cheaper than the panny. Plus it has gotten great reviews from top testers. Just my $.02
derekp
11-30-2004, 12:26 PM
I bought the Panny last week. I love it, but it has the same minor problems as the Denon 1910 due to the fact it uses the same upconversion chip. I'd buy whichever of the 2 you find cheaper.
I haven't seen the Sony in person yet, but I've read that it has minor colour issues. In Canada the Sony is $100 more for some reason, so that influenced my decision.
Overall, I doubt you'll regret the purchase of any of the three.
Chris_pwnz
11-30-2004, 04:29 PM
but it has the same minor problems as the Denon 1910 due to the fact it uses the same upconversion chip.
what is this "problem" and how does it affect performance/PQ??
I haven't seen the Sony in person yet, but I've read that it has minor colour issues.
what king of color issues? are they the kind which are fixable by software upgrades or w/e???
Chris_pwnz
11-30-2004, 07:48 PM
how does the pani handle upscaling non-anamorphic dvds??
and has the Samsung DVDHD941 been released yet? cus it looks good.
derekp
12-01-2004, 02:06 PM
what is this "problem" and how does it affect performance/PQ??
It's a sort-of blocky pixelation around motion in low lit scenes. I don't know if this is a proper term, but I've seen it described in other forums as "macroblocking". After some tweaking I don't notice it any longer. I guess if you were blowing the picture up larger it may be more of an issue. As it stands, the PQ is great on my 51" RPTV.
what king of color issues? are they the kind which are fixable by software upgrades or w/e???
From what I've read, greens are somewhat muted on the Sony. I'm yet to see it first hand, but I'd imagine it's correctable. You may even be able to do some tweaking in your settings to lessen the problem. No biggy.
As you can see, the problems with these units are very minor. No reason to be unhappy with either, as the PQ is otherwise excellent for the price.
derekp
12-01-2004, 02:20 PM
how does the pani handle upscaling non-anamorphic dvds??
Poorly. ;-)
I haven't tested many, but the PQ suffers. It's not awful, but you definitely notice the drop off. I don't know if it just zooms in or performs some sort of "wide-zoom", as I don't own too much non-anamorphic stuff.
I know of several people who have written to Panasonic and they have been fairly receptive about concerns. A firmware upgrade has been mentioned to take care of this issue and the macroblocking. This is not quite a certainty yet, but it's not just a rumour either. Would be nice.
and has the Samsung DVDHD941 been released yet? cus it looks good.
I believe the release date is coming up. The last Samsung (841?) was said to be mediocre, but that could have been due to the DVI-HDMI problems. It is said to be Faroudja based, so it will likely inherit macroblocking. It's loaded with features, for sure. Might be worth teh wait if you're into SACD.
jamsession
12-02-2004, 04:50 AM
http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?p=83220#post83220
i guess my thread will help you to find the answers about sony ns975...
TexasAg
12-02-2004, 12:12 PM
I bought the Panny last week. I love it, but it has the same minor problems as the Denon 1910 due to the fact it uses the same upconversion chip. I'd buy whichever of the 2 you find cheaper.
I haven't seen the Sony in person yet, but I've read that it has minor colour issues. In Canada the Sony is $100 more for some reason, so that influenced my decision.
Overall, I doubt you'll regret the purchase of any of the three.
Actually the panasonic uses a 2310 while the Denon uses a 2301.
derekp
12-02-2004, 01:09 PM
Actually the panasonic uses a 2310 while the Denon uses a 2301.
Regardless, the same problem applies to both players as well as the Denon 2910 and 3910 (which use the 2310).
Chris_pwnz
12-03-2004, 05:13 PM
hmmm, i am down to the denon1910, the pAni, and the new samsungHD941.
i like the fact that with the denon i will be able to connect it to a reciever, since hdmi receivers are expencive
i like the samsng becus it is the newest, so chances are they have worked out the bugs the two others suffer from.
i still dont no tho...
derekp
12-06-2004, 12:53 PM
You should have no problems connecting any of the above to a receiver.
The preliminary reviews of the Samsung are mixed. Looks like they still haven't cleared up the problems that the 841 and 931 suffered from.
Chris_pwnz
12-06-2004, 09:11 PM
which one suffers LEAST from macro blocking
brector
12-07-2004, 10:26 AM
hmmm, i am down to the denon1910, the pAni, and the new samsungHD941.
i like the fact that with the denon i will be able to connect it to a reciever, since hdmi receivers are expencive
i like the samsng becus it is the newest, so chances are they have worked out the bugs the two others suffer from.
i still dont no tho...
The only thing my denon suffers from is the macroblocking. And I think it is all about the source disk. If I put in a crappy PQ DVD - it will have macroblocking when set to upconvert to 1080i. If I put in a good/great PQ DVD - no macroblocking. I personally don't see it as a REAL bug - just an after effect of bad PQ. My $.02
Edit - and off the top of my head, I don't think it macroblocks in prog. mode. I will check if someone wants.
derekp
12-07-2004, 12:10 PM
which one suffers LEAST from macro blocking
I don't think anyone can give you a definitive answer on that, but I think it's worth repeating that I've seen it on both and that it doesn't bother me to the point of distraction.
I personally don't see it as a REAL bug - just an after effect of bad PQ.
If it's not there in 480p mode but shows up in 720/1080, I would take that as evidence that it's a bug in the Faroudja chip or it's implementation. Please do check, I've very curious.
brector
12-07-2004, 12:54 PM
I don't think anyone can give you a definitive answer on that, but I think it's worth repeating that I've seen it on both and that it doesn't bother me to the point of distraction.
If it's not there in 480p mode but shows up in 720/1080, I would take that as evidence that it's a bug in the Faroudja chip or it's implementation. Please do check, I've very curious.
I will check tonight after work.
