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sonyhdguy
12-03-2004, 10:25 AM
For reference, my only comparison was an xbox with monster video cables and optical audio out. I found that to look great on my Sony 42" rear projection LCD, with some minor flicker.

I first had it connected with the HDMI to DVI adaptor and an optical cable to my receiver. I always try The Matrix Revolutions and Return of the King, as I find both to be pretty good looking disc. On the Matrix, plus Harry Potter: Prisoner... I found the black levels to be so dark that some scenes were unwatchable. Same thing with the ninja scene on The Last Samurai. Night scenes were all black, with no definition on black clothing, everyone looked light faces on black blobs. On the plus side, everything was very crisp, and most other colors looked great. Turning up my TV's picture and brightness did nothing. Upon speaking with a "level 2" Samsung rep, he told me that the digital output isn't converted by the TV or the player, and that some DTVs do not process all blacks/dark levels when not run through their video hardware. I did notice a difference between 480p and 720p, but not between 720p and 1080i, although both looked (what I thought) significantly crisper and a bit brighter.

Much to my chagrin, I was told the black level was unfixable b/c it was a TV problem, which I understood. Upon messing around with the component output, I connected some monster cables, while leaving the DVI cable plugged into a different input. Accidentally, I was changing the resolution on the remote while comparing the two inputs thinking the TV was set to DVI. It was on the component input, and the resolutions were changing! The picture was less bright and crisp, but still looked better than what I was used to on my xbox. So technically, I found a way to output 720p-1080i through component, but you have to have the HDMI or DVI cable also running to a different input on the TV. Because the player defaults to the HDMI output, it lets you change the resolution, which it normally wouldn't if just component outs were being used.

Bottom line: at first I was really upset with the player, but now I'm estatic because of this little trick I learned. Also, quickly, the optical audio sounds better as I had to adjust my volume levels, more dynamic and louder than xbox.

As a previous poster noted, the remote is just not well thought out, buttons everyone with no logic applied and using it in the dark is really a PITA.

Overall, I'd recommend it!

Ike
12-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the review. Can't wait to have one. :hyper:

oman321
12-03-2004, 12:49 PM
So changing the resolution made blacks look better?

starbuck
12-04-2004, 01:21 AM
So, are you saying theres no black level control on the player?Also have you tried the sacd and dvd audio yet?

sonyhdguy
12-06-2004, 10:35 AM
There was no way to make the blacks look better, the display options have a black correction, but that's only for component out, as the HDMI output does not go through hardware for digital-analogue-digital processing (according to the level 2 Samsung rep)

The blacks looked significantly better when I was viewing 720p and 1080i through my component input. When I change the input to DVI, the picture still looks worlds better, almost on par with HDTV depending on the disc. If the disc isn't too dark (Matrix, new Harry Potter), I almost can't tell the difference between HDTV and watching on this player (especially with Spidey 2 superbit - WOW!) It's really almost that good, I'd say picture quality is about 90% of HDTV, depending on the channel, it's about HD HBO or Cinemax good, not quite discovery HD good. This is after an entire weekend of watching different movies. In summary, I love this player, and if the scene is dark, I watch it on component input in 1080i, otherwise I watch it in DVI input.

Sry, haven't tried DVD audio or SVCD yet as I don't have any types of those discs.

newby
12-30-2004, 01:34 AM
sonyguy i hear you nothing can touch descovery hd and i also have spider-man 2 superbit i usely whacth movies on my computer to the tv using dvi but my tv has some kind of copy protection that wont let me go pass 720p on the computer. I use 1080i on the dvi for digtal cable is it worth picking these player up i have a samsung dlp and right now im using 6800 gt oc and intervideo 6 will the sony be better whats your opion thanks.

newby
12-30-2004, 01:41 AM
owe yeah one more thing i was reading on this sight yeasterday not sure which thread but somebody poasted a link to a web site that was reveiwing up-converting players and they did not like the new sammy for seaveral reasons the one i was worried about was that when using the hdmi to dvi input it was reverting back to pc black and white levels intstead of thearter levels and it was noticable. I just was wondering if any of you guys saw that because i dont have hdmi on my model and if i buy this thing it would put me back in the same boat im in. Also i read the samsung got a feature called easy cut that streches wide screen movies to fit full screen with one button but how much picture does it cut off any idea would be great. and here is that link someone had posted that says that about the new sammy and every other player bascially http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=121

James62370
01-03-2005, 06:34 AM
I had purchased this unit about 2 weeks ago. The picture quality IMO was very nice, but every movie I watched seemed to have a slight hesitation or pause. At least twice during each movie. I found it weird, so I returned the unit. Not sure if it was a defective unit or a problem with using the HDMI output to my TV. I used the cable supplied with the unit. Unfortunately the store did not have another unit for me, so I switched it for a Sony DVP-NS975V. The picture IMO was marginally better than the Samsung, however the Sony died after only watching half a movie. It powered itself off, and then the Disk would not eject. I ended up returning the Sony also along with a $50.00 HDMI cable since one is not supplied with this unit. So now I am doing research for another Upscaling DVD player. So far I am 0 for 2 :(

brector
01-03-2005, 11:05 AM
I had purchased this unit about 2 weeks ago. The picture quality IMO was very nice, but every movie I watched seemed to have a slight hesitation or pause. At least twice during each movie. I found it weird, so I returned the unit.

Could have been the layer changing. My denon will pause for a few seconds once in a dual layer dvd when it changes.

mikehbkwm
01-03-2005, 02:33 PM
the reason the image probably didnt look as crisp is because there is a known issue with some of the HDMI players out there right now... they will output computer level RBG signals instead of standard tv RBG levels...

Ike
01-03-2005, 02:59 PM
So now I am doing research for another Upscaling DVD player. So far I am 0 for 2 :(

Try the Panasonic S97. I've got one and very happy with it. Initially I bought Denon 2910 but I was not impressed with it so I returned it and got the Panny. :)

           


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