View Full Version : wait for 1920x1080p or not?
scobro
03-16-2005, 05:46 PM
I am trying to make a descision but technology is getting in the way.I want to get the Samsung HLP5085W pedestal model but found out that the new Samsung HLR series will be 1920x1080 progessive display.NowI know there is nothing available right now at 1080p but i plan on having this tv for at least the next 5 years.My problem is do I spend the extra money on the new models (with the new chips XHD4 that will be better than HD2+chips plus better contrast ratio)assuming that in the next 2-3 years 1080p should be the norm for most sets plus feeds from broacasting stations...... or just get the 2004 model since its cheaper and its hard to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p or is 720p compared to 1080p night and day difference.
I will also be watching dvd's a lot so my other question is with the whole new Blue ray and HD-DVDtechnology, will the new dvd's be formatted for 1080p.
Any feedback would be helpful.
Thankyou
TheAntMan
03-16-2005, 06:49 PM
That's a pretty tough call for one of us to make for ya. Most of us are already HDTVer's so most would say go for it now. But as far as you go, let's see. Technology: Tech's always changing, for better or worse. Who's to say that 8mos - 1 yr from now, when what you are waiting for become available, there won't be something else on the horizon in another 8mos-1yr. Do you wait again?? There are many solid TV's out there now with great PQ in 720p/1080i. Do you want to be able to show that off to your friends now (forget showing off...do you want to just enjoy it now??). TV's now have HDMI/HDCP, component cables, optical, etc..You have plenty off hook up inputs to enjoy your accessories....do you want to take advantage of that now? or later?
Price: You mentioned price also. Are those sets going to be in your budget right away, or will you want to wait more months for the prices to drop, thus..amking you wait longer.... DVD technology (blue ray- HD) are still a year away at least, and also then when those products come out, will they be at your price range?? Maybe you have the $$, so that's not an issue, but it will probably be a long while before most of us can get those technologies..... I've been enjoying HD now for almost a year and have enjoyed watching HD programs and showing off HD programs on my set. There are better sets out from when I bought mine last year, and my set is cheaper than when I bought it, but I'm glad I did!! Does this make sense to ya??
I would buy now.
This is the classic, if I wait a while something better will come out. When that something better comes out, something even better is on the horizon.
Eldorado
03-16-2005, 08:07 PM
If you have the money. do it now, enjoy now and worry about the next big thing when it's here. This is like waiting to marry to have sex.
Ratman
03-18-2005, 08:23 AM
"Contrast Ratio" debate was moved to a new thread:
http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=17872
urbansouljah
03-18-2005, 10:22 AM
I just watched real HD on HBO for the first time last night. They were showing Man on Fire in "True HD" and it looked crystal clear. I have never seen any HD material to date that looks anywhere near as good as that movie did. It was as if I were watching a totally different movie. My monitor only supports 1080i and I'm sticking with it.
Matt27
03-18-2005, 04:14 PM
That's great!!!
Honestly though 1080i and 720p is morew than adequate, resolution can only get so good untill you can't go no more.
wauktown
03-18-2005, 04:36 PM
I say wait. There is not always "a better thing on the horizon." Just look at standard CRT TVs in the 80's and 90's. The industry pretty much settled down and you could go into a store and most of the CRT TVs were the same. Sure, there were differences in size, and some differences in build quality, but feature wise there were mostly the same. The same will happen with the new HDTVs (and also hopefully with Blu-ray/HDDVD, but they may go the route of laserdiscs). In the next couple of years the broadcasts will settle on a particular format, all channels will be HD. You're going to be pretty P.O'ed if everything settles out to 1080 and you just spent 3 grand on a 720 set. Also, the manufactuers will settle down on their technology.
oman321
03-18-2005, 04:46 PM
It's gonna be a while before anything gets settled... Do your research so you can get the most for your money now. Whatever is settled on your set will be able to handle it one way or another. When the time comes if you really want you'll be able to upgrade. IMO you'll be waiting the better part of 5 years before you'll be able to take advantage of any 1080P signals besides the HD DVD(if formatted that way) technology coming.
scobro
03-18-2005, 05:32 PM
It's gonna be a while before anything gets settled... Do your research so you can get the most for your money now. Whatever is settled on your set will be able to handle it one way or another. When the time comes if you really want you'll be able to upgrade. IMO you'll be waiting the better part of 5 years before you'll be able to take advantage of any 1080P signals besides the HD DVD(if formatted that way) technology coming.
you are right ,i have this question logged in at 6 other boards and the advice I am getting is what you just stated.In 5 years Im gonna buy another t.v to replace the one I have not even bought yet,so why wait.Im gonna pull the plug on a Samsung HLP5085W. :canada: :D
TheAntMan
03-18-2005, 06:46 PM
I think most of us on this thread called it for you. Good luck with your set!
gparris
03-19-2005, 07:07 PM
oman321 is right, what with the high-definition DVD format "war" going on we will have to wait for a multiformat player/recorder so we can buy the movies/rent the movies we want as it won't be like Beta/VHS this time where you could get any movie or recording in either format for one machine and the cost is going to be very high initially and so far, I have not read anywhere that it WILL be 1080p, anyway.
The biggest challenge to buying an HDTV set is what display matters to you, the layout of the set, its controls, what you watch, size of room, etc. 720p is fine for now and later...good luck with the Samsung...many forum members love them!
Freddy Basset
03-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Dell is offering a 24" 1080p LCD monitor now for c. $1200.00, even a lot less [I've heard].
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1774293,00.asp
It's directly comparable to the Samsung 241mp which is still presently "streeting" for $4,300.00.
This might be a good interim solution. I'm thinking of getting one for the bedroom.
J in OP
03-21-2005, 08:38 AM
Do you think that you will really notice much of a difference watching 1080p on a 24 inch screen? It seems to me that a screen of that size is too small to really differentiate between 10801, 720p, and 1080p.
To me, the smaller the screen, the less inportant the resolution seems to be.
Freddy Basset
03-21-2005, 06:53 PM
I have a 24" Samsung 240T and use it dual purpose.
True 1080P [clips downloaded from fusionHD] on it looks deliriously good. :smokin:
And yes, you can sit quite close to it. :)
strangersonmyflight
03-21-2005, 11:41 PM
Do you think that you will really notice much of a difference watching 1080p on a 24 inch screen? It seems to me that a screen of that size is too small to really differentiate between 10801, 720p, and 1080p.
To me, the smaller the screen, the less inportant the resolution seems to be.
Well fwiw, the higher HDTV settings on a smaller screen do allow you to approach that "ideal" computer monitor scenario. That's not such a bad goal for the HDTV, given the high resolution computer monitors are pretty much the pinnacle standard for reference video quality. True, they are typically smaller in size, but within that size, they deliver rigidly-controlled, no-excuses levels of accuracy.
