directv trouble

[vaslim428]

I recently purchased the Direc Duo Oval dish for internet and DirecTv.
I get all the regular channels but get only a black picture on HDNET
(199) and HBO (509).

Do I need more than one LNB arm to recieve HD channels? I have one arm
for internet and another for TV.

The TV arm has a dual LNB output. When I switch to the dish pointing
screen and change over to the 119 satellite. I do recieve strong
signals on the few transponders that operate.

Any help would be appreciated.



Seth

[ZeroDegreeK]

Which DirecTV receiver (IRD) do you have? If you don't have one that decodes the HD siganl, you will get a black screen.

[vaslim428]

I havfe the rCA 383110 with the built in DTC100.

[ibm135]

http://www.epinions.com/elec-Video-DSS-All-RCA_DTC100

The RCA DTC100 is a separate component, not a module of another component.

[ZeroDegreeK]

Originally posted by ibm135

The RCA DTC100 is a separate component, not a module of another component.

I think vaslim428 means he has the RCA F38310 television set with the built in DTC100.

[zarlor]

You may need to give DirecTV a call and make sure they authorize your receiver for the HD channels. I remember having to do that when I used to have DirecTV.

[ZeroDegreeK]

I am pretty sure the problem is with your dish. The DirecDuo dish has only 1 LNB and a LNFB for satellite modem.

I think you may need another dish pointing to 110 or 119 (I forget which has the HD at the moment) and a multiswitch.

[zarlor]

I'm not so sure about that. If that is the Ellipctical dish it is meant to be aimed at two sattelites (up to three, acutually) at once. I'm not sure about the internet service, but if it is through the same sat as the HD service you should be set-up fine.

Does your Dish have 2 LNBs on the arm with two wires coming from each LNB (for 4 total wires) connecting to a multi-switch on the back of the dish? That's how mine is (or was, when I had it connected to DirecTV several months ago). The internet service may be something different, though, so I could be very wrong here. But With an oval dish you should be able to work it just fine as long as you aim it using the elliptical dish option on the DTC-100's setup menu.

Actually re-reading your original post... if the arm on your dish has only room for one LNB you may need a second dish. If it has only the one LNB on it, but room for a couple more, then you all you would need to get is another LNB.

[ZeroDegreeK]

This is the duo dish. I think it only has 1 lnb.

[hjriver]

Originally posted by ZeroDegreeK
I am pretty sure the problem is with your dish. The DirecDuo dish has only 1 LNB and a LNFB for satellite modem.

I think you may need another dish pointing to 110 or 119 (I forget which has the HD at the moment) and a multiswitch.

I have the RCA F38310 with directv dual dish. It has 2 arms and 2 LNB's. Will not work without that setup. I have 2 tv's hooked to one and digital to both. You do have to call directv and have it initialized for it to work.

[ZeroDegreeK]

I was under the impression the DirecDuo had 2 lnbs. One for the internet that is pointed at the 95 satellite, and 1 DUAL lnb pointed at the 101 satellite. This dual lnb would allow multiple receivers to be connected.

If your direcDuo has a third DUAL lnb that can be pointed to the 119 satellite then you can get HD. Personally, I have never seen one. Most configurations I have seen have been the DirecDuo dish with the internet only lnb, and an elliptical dish for DTV and DTV-HD.

[vaslim428]

First off, thanks for all of the replys. I'm starting to narrow down the problem.


I do know that DirecTV has enabled HD service. I have the older DirecDuo but it is still an oval dish and it does recieve 101 and 95 for the Internet.

The 101 LNB is a dual LNB output but as far as I know, that just allows me to ad another reciever.

I'm starting to think I may need another LNB that will recieve the 119 satellite.

Question for everyone. . . Is Each LNB tuned for a specific Satellite or are they all the same?

Most people I have talked to say that the standard oval dish multi-sat setup has two LNB's, each with a dual output. It sounds like one LNB gets the 101 sat and the other recieves the 119 sat.
If this is the case, I have a spare LNB that I could use. Unless I need one that is tuned for the 119 Sat.

One added note is that when I go to the Dish Pointing in Setup, I can select the oval dish with 2 LNB's.

When I select the 119 Sat. I get high signal on 3 or so transponders. Is my system being fooled or am I actually recieving that Sat.?

[ZeroDegreeK]

You will need another satellite dish as well as another LNB. Basically all LNBs are the same they don't need to be "tuned" to get a signal from a certain satellite (except for the Sat C, and the Internet which are different LNBs)

The standard multi-sat dish or "para todos" dish is different than the Direcduo dish. I doubt you can add a LNB to the direcduo and get the 119. There is also a plus dish with 3 dual LNBs, however they tune to the 101,110,119

It sounds like all you need is a basic round DTV dish. You already tune into 95 and 101 with your direcduo so you get the internet connectivity and basic directv. You can add another satellite dish, and a multiswitch and aim it to 119 to get HD. Or you can go the costly route and use the direcduo for internet only and get a more expensive multi-sat dish to get basic DTV and HD.

When you select the type of dish you have on the menu of your IRD, it takes it for granted you are telling the truth. All it does is look for a signal. And you have one, through the 101 LNB. There is actually a trick to receive more local channels by having a round dish and setting your receiver to think you have a 3LNB multi-sat.

[DTC mac]

The DirectDuo dish has one linear polorized LNBF to receive DirectPC from galaxy3R at 95 WL and one Dual circularly polorized LNB to receive core directTv programming from 101 WL. It does not have the cabability of reciving from 110 WL nor 119 WL.

[vaslim428]

Is there a way to add the correct LNB for the 110 satellite? Attach a 3rd LNB to get 110?

[DTC mac]

The geometry of the dish's reflector and the LNB mounting arm as well as the actual LNB feed preclude adding 110 or 119 to the same DirectDuo dish. 110 and 119 could easily be picked up by adding a E* dish 500 dish and a 22KHz multiswitch ( 110 requiring the special Sat C LNB of course )

there are four major DBS dish types;

1. 18" round elliptical - points to only one satellite

2. 20" round elliptical E* dish 500 - points to two satellites 9 deg. apart

3. 18"X30" elliptical sphereoid section - to receive med pwr DirectPC satellite can also receive 101 WL satellite with modified arm and feed

4. 18"X24" elliptcal sphereoid section- can point to all three CONUS (101/110/119) satellite slots