How far in the future do we have to wait..

[HDTV-NUT]

Until a TV comes along that never needs a bulb replacement, dosent fade with time, has no possability of burn in, has the picture quility of a HD CRT, can be in the 60''-70'' size frame, and cost less then a house?

The one thing I like about my DLP is that its isnt susceptible to burn, the technology dosent really age so my picture will be the same as the day I bought it in 5 years aslong as I replace the bulb. It has its weakness though, the bulb needs to be changed every 2 years, the picture quility is great but it dosent yet reach a Direct View CRT HDTV in terms of PQ, and my TV is a little to big to be hung from the wall.

With all that said, how long will we have to wait for a TV like I listed above and do you guys think there will ever be one available?

[57U]

SED technology seems promising. Perhaps 7 years?

[HDTV-NUT]

hmm, im ashamed to say that i have never heard of SED. i will have to do some reading on it. any good articles on the subject? thanks

[Ratman]

http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/sed_tvs.htm

[57U]

http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=7506&highlight=SED%2A

[DougRuss]

How long do you think the Industry would last if there was a Perfect Display? What would they make their money on then ? :-)

[skylolow]

That was a good article. Never heard of SED before. Seems to be very promising and should be quite affordable after a few years on the open market.

[LeeS]

How far in the future do we have to wait..

When Hell Freezes Over comes to mind, and I don't mean the Eagles DVD :)

I am quite happy with my projector; however as you said, the lamp life/cost is a concern.

Lee

[newf]

other then CRT is Plasma the only other TV that you just plug it in and when it dies(7 to 10 yrs) you replace it.

[Ramone]

Maybe not so long now. Looks like both TI and HP will be releasing DLP sets in 2006 using LED technology instead of bulbs. Besides doing away with replacement bulbs this could also eliminate the rainbow effect and improve color reproduciton too, pretty exctiting.

HP data sheet (http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2006/ces/ds_id5280nHDTVlvh.pdf)

TI press release:
TI Unveils Breakthrough DLP(R) HDTV Innovations With LED Technology and New Chipsets at 2006 International CES
Thursday January 5, 6:05 am ET
DLP(R) HDTVs Lead Microdisplay Category, Dominate 1080p Sales


LAS VEGAS, Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Texas Instruments (NYSE: TXN - News; TI) at 2006 International CES today announced technology innovations that will drive industry-leading DLP® HDTV technology to new, ground-breaking levels of picture quality, and more affordable solutions for manufacturers and ultimately consumers. With the introduction of a new DLP HDTV solution that supports LED light sources, and new HDTV chipsets with BrilliantColor(TM) color processing technology, consumers will benefit from even more high- quality viewing choices from DLP HDTV manufacturers.
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Samsung will ship the first commercially available DLP HDTV with an LED light engine in 2006. The integration of highly-efficient LED technology for DLP HDTVs offers the ability to display a wider NTSC color gamut at approximately 130%. The unit also provides Instant On/Off functionality, and expands DLP technology's leadership in Samsung's high performance HDTV solutions. LED light sources unshackle the inherent speed advantage of DLP technology and increase the color refresh rate to 48x the standard TV frame rate, further accelerating DLP technology's speed leadership position and providing the best TV technology solution for watching fast motion sports and video games. Samsung expects to begin shipping these sets by mid-2006.

To continue offering consumers the best visual experience at an affordable price, TI is introducing two new chipsets: the .45" 720p DLP chip and the .65" 1080p DLP chip. Both chipsets feature BrilliantColor(TM) technology optimized for DLP HDTV applications to extend DLP color processing from 3 colors up to 6 colors, increasing the number of producible color shades to an astonishing 200 trillion, and providing an up to 50% total screen brightness increase. This translates to incredible new levels of color saturation and overall image enhancement from very affordable chipsets, allowing manufacturers to maintain the DLP HDTV price advantage on large screen TVs for years to come.

DLP HDTV technology is leading the industry in maximum-HD 1080p resolution as the number one selling 1080p TV technology in 2005, according to The NPD Group. 1080 resolution is the high-definition standard which content is moving towards, from broadcast standards to gaming devices such as Xbox 360, to the HD-DVD standard supported by TI. DLP was also the number one microdisplay technology used by TV manufacturers in 4Q05 through November (Source: The NPD Group).

"We strive to provide our customers with performance innovations, while also continuing to ensure a price competitive solution for the market," said Adam Kunzman, Business Manager, DLP HDTV Products, Texas Instruments. "Ultimately, it is about delivering the best HDTV at an unmatched value for the consumer, and DLP is determined to win against plasma."

CES attendees can experience DLP 1080p technology for both TV and front projection applications at TI DLP Products booth #8602 in the Central Hall.

[LeeS]

Ramone,

Thanks for the post. LED light engine technology. I'll need to learn more about that for sure.

Thanks,
Lee

[damax452]

The perfect TV will never exist. Once something exists, it is imperfect. But I understand your concern, $3k+ for a TV that will fail in 2 yrs, why should we buy these things?

[newf]

I don't need a perfect TV and I'm saving for my next but don't know if I should go LCD or Plasma and acording to http://www.panasonic.ca/english/audiovideo/plasma/lcdorplasma.asp it doesn't matter I do play xbox360 games what would you guy's get ( keep in mind I'm saving till I get min 5000.00cdn).this is a TV I want not can afford, although I can't afford it LOL.

[tdti1]

There is also Motorola and the Nano tech.


Big screens a growth industry for Motorola
BY HOWARD WOLINSKY Chicago Sun-TimesBusiness Reporter May 9, 2005
Motorola, a Schaumburg IL tech company, is planting carbon nanotube seeds on glass and growing TV screens that it promises will shatter the prices now being paid for big-screen TVs. It today will announce it is ready to begin marketing a new technology to "grow" large-screen TVs using atom-sized carbon nano tubes as seeds with the potential to produce superior images at a fraction of the price of today's big screens.

And here's some news sports fans will welcome: A Motorola spokesman said the images are so sharp that even fast-moving objects, such as hockey pucks and baseballs, are visible without blurring or disappearing.

"With over 15 years experience and 160 patents in carbon nanotube technology and flat panel displays, we have developed a technology that could enable the next generation of large-size flat-panel displays to deliver an extraordinary visual experience at a fraction of current prices," said Jim O'Connor, vice president of Motorola technology incubation and commercialization.

He said a 40-inch screen will cost less than $400. This compares with 40-inch liquid-crystal plasma screens costing $2,500 and up today. The company has produced a first-of-its kind, 5-inch-wide prototype that is less than an inch thick for use as a high-definition screen. O'Connor said the process could easily be scaled up to a 42-inch display for a TV or computer display.

Motorola can grow a carbon nanotube in less than two minutes. In a manufacturing environment it will take one to five minutes. A carbon nanotube is 10,000 times thinner than a strand of human hair. Motorola is shopping the technology to other manufacturers, and O'Connor predicted carbon nanotube TVs will be on the market within two years.

Motorola itself pulled out of TV manufacturing in the 1970s, and ceased making flat-panel displays for computers in the 1990s. However, O'Connor said the company continued its research program in laboratories here and in Phoenix.

Barry Young, vice president of DisplaySearch, a flat panel display market research and consulting company in Texas, said carbon nanotubes make superior TV images because they "are near perfect conductors, and can emit electrons efficiently when sufficient current is passed."

He said Samsung, SDI and ITRI have all built carbon nanotube prototypes, but have had quality problems. They slather a carbon nanotube paste on glass, a process compared to putting peanut butter on bread. But not all the carbon tubes line up in the same direction using that slapdash technique.

Young said Moto's breakthrough involves a catalyst that can be placed on glass. The result is uniform and accurate positioning of the nanotubes. He said if one nanotube fails, another is there as a backup. "Motorola has also figured out a way to ensure that a very high percentage of the electrons hit the proper phosphor dot."
He noted that the approach still has to be demonstrated in mass production.

O'Connor said the nano-emissive technology using cathode ray display in a flat-screen format produces images with better brightness, contrast, color and viewing angle than plasma or LCDs.

The technology has other potential applications, such as large screens for sports stadiums and billboard advertising, as well as use in devices to detect and eradicate infectious microbes, and also in fuel and solar cells, ultra-small transistors and memory chips.

"The technology is ready to deliver now," said O'Connor.

Motorola will be presenting its prototype May 22 at the Society for Information Display International Symposium in Boston.

WHAT IS NANOTECHNOLOGY?

It's the science and technology of building anything from single atoms and molecules.

Manufactured products are made from atoms, and the properties of those products depend on how those atoms are arranged.

If engineers rearrange the atoms in coal, they can make diamonds. If the rearrange the atoms in sand (and add a few other trace elements), they can make computer chips.

If they rearrange the atoms in dirt, water and air, they can make potatoes.

In the future, we'll be able to snap together the fundamental building blocks of nature easily and inexpensively. This will be essential if we are to continue the revolution in computer hardware beyond about the next decade, and will also let us fabricate an entire new generation of products that are cleaner, stronger, lighter and more precise.

Contributing: Ralph Merkle, Georgia Tech University

[ShnikeJSB]

I myself am watching for SED, as I still find CRT/Tube to rule all, and with the thinness of a plasma, I am in for sure. But what really "grinds my gears" is that all these companies keep saying how their product will be "much cheaper than current offerings"...

All I have to say to that is BS, and I'll believe it when I see it... They are all too greedy to sell a 40" TV for under $400! Even if it costs them $40 to make the set, they will STILL sell it for $1995, because it's PERCEIVED to be worth that much, and they will be laughing all the way to the bank...

Grrrr...

-JB