View Full Version : whats making the 50a2000 go down in price so fast???
hulkster081
09-08-2006, 10:42 AM
the 50A2000 is the tv im currently saving for to buy this winter, and ive noticed that in a months time roughly, that the tv has gone from $2800 when it came out, down to around $2200 at CC, and about $2150 on tapeworkstexas.com!!! im hoping it will down in price some more by the time i get one, but i was wondering....is it the new xbr2 line coming out thats making it go down in price?
JU1CYFRU1T
09-08-2006, 12:40 PM
I'm sure that you are right. The XBR2 is a big product as far as sony is concerned. It's not as big as Blew-Ray, but it's a big one for their TV department. For those who can't afford the $5200+ for the 70", this $2100 TV is a great alternative.
When Sony added the 55" it gave them a little more freedom with pricing, because now they have 5 different size/model configurations. They can make the 50A2000 the 'budget model', and slope the pricing from there.
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damondlt
09-08-2006, 07:30 PM
I never saw that tv for $2800.Where was this ? Highest I saw was $2300. And that was from an independent dealer.A 50" SXRD is only $2500 at Bestbuy.And the 50a2000 is only $1800.
JU1CYFRU1T
09-09-2006, 04:08 PM
I never saw that tv for $2800.Where was this ? Highest I saw was $2300. And that was from an independent dealer.A 50" SXRD is only $2500 at Bestbuy.And the 50a2000 is only $1800.
Are you sure you're talking about the KDS-50A2000? It's Sony's brand new SXRD TV. It's listed on Sonystyle (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=rNhOe05vnYpP9ArvPFBEcAF_M6OxhPOSsIc=?CategoryName=hid_tv_newbravia) for $2499, and I doubt that a TV that is less than 2 months old is going to be selling for $700 off MSRP from a brick & morter store already.
If you are correct, I would go to BB and buy every TV they have (and re-sell them on ebay.)
damondlt
09-10-2006, 09:51 AM
I guess I got the wrong tv then. I saw the 50 inch SXRD at bestbuy for $2500 as I stated.Go on the bestbuy sight because there is a KDF-50A2000. entry level 50 that is $1800.
JU1CYFRU1T
09-10-2006, 12:08 PM
The best way to check (if you are looking at the XBR1 or A2000) is to look at the speakers. If the speakers are on the sides of the TV with a 1" gap(on the 50" model), it is the 2005 XBR1. On the new(2006) KDS-R50A2000, the speakers are under the display.
As I re-read your post, you have the part number wrong. Again, we are talking about the KDS-R50A2000, the TV that I think you are talking about is the KDF-50E2000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7848546&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050016&id=1142298918228). The F in your post should be an S for the set, and the E should be an A. The set on BB is a LCD rear projection, while the SXRD that Hulkster is talking about is LCoS.
Hulkster is looking for the SXRD set, and not LCD. The TV was $2800 out the gate, and is droping in price as Sony gets ready to ship the XBR2 (LCoS).
To make things even more confusing, Sony already has another XBR2 in their lineup, a LCD flat pannel (as well as a XBR3).
It's not a problem, just a letter confusion.
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damondlt
09-10-2006, 12:24 PM
Cool. What makes the SXRD more money? Do standard definition pictures look ok on them? I think they look good on my KDF-E50A10.
JU1CYFRU1T
09-10-2006, 01:38 PM
The SXRD has a smoother picture up close (no screen-door effect).SXRD A2000 Line
Offering 60-, 55- and 50-inch models, Sony's new A2000 line delivers outstanding SXRD picture quality and a new compact, bottom speaker cabinet design. The KDS-60A2000, KDS-55A2000 and KDS-50A2000 models feature the WEGA Engine system and the same 0.61-inch SXRD chips found in the XBR line, as well as such picture technologies as Cinema Black Pro that delivers a contrast of up to 10,000:1 based on overall light levels of the original source. The line also offers two HDMI inputs with 1080p capability and a front component input for HDV camcorder and PC input
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The XBR2 also has the auto-iris feature, which dims the light output during dark scenes and increases it during bright ones, and DRC 2.5. Video signal process enhancements include Sony's WEGA Engine HD™ system and Digital Reality Creation® Multi Function Version Two Point Five (DRC-MFv2.5), high resolution video processing technology which provides crisp and clear pictures. This technology enables the digital mapping of not only conventional NTSC sources, but also 1080i HD signals. IMO it's a better set, and the reason I'm getting the KDS-R60XBR2 (I've pre-ordered it, and am waiting for Sony to ship).
Hope this helps,
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gparris
09-11-2006, 08:54 AM
The SXRD has a smoother picture up close (no screen-door effect).
The XBR2 also has the auto-iris feature, which dims the light output during dark scenes and increases it during bright ones, and DRC 2.5. IMO it's a better set, and the reason I'm getting the KDS-R60XBR2 (I've pre-ordered it, and am waiting for Sony to ship).
Hope this helps,
JU1CYFRU1T
I am still glad I got the XBR1 instead of waiting for the A2000 after seeing it in the CC store a couple months later.
The spouse actually likes the speakers on the sides, says it gives it some class and a "floating frame" effect, even though we had to pull the entertainment center much farther out than I had liked to have vs. the A2000's smaller width.
SD programming looks better on it than my other HDTV sets, that's for certain, too.
If I could ever afford the 70" SXRD when it comes out to replace my Hitachi, I would (no green-hued faces when there should be brown or black), I would, believe me.
I figure, by the time it comes for the extended warranty to be renewed on the Hitachi, I could get the SXRD on sale by then (I can dream,eh?) :)
JU1CYFRU1T
09-11-2006, 12:26 PM
Cool. What makes the SXRD more money? Do standard definition pictures look ok on them? I think they look good on my KDF-E50A10.
I also forgot that the XBR2 has PIP, while the A2000 does not. There are definite reasons that the XBR2 is more money. You can compare the two at SonyStyle (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=8ZwXeN0Kwh0XbZmfO84dc5IGLZQrOcXWek0=?CategoryName=hid_tv_newbravia&Dept=tvvideo). The price drop is due to the fact that the XBR2s will be shipping in a matter of days/weeks.
gparris,
I agree with you that the XBR1 is a better TV than the A2000. Once I receive my XBR2, I will let you know how the picture looks. Also, if you haven't seen it yet, I posted in the HD DVD hardware forum, and would like your input (we'll stay on topic here).
strutter
09-11-2006, 12:41 PM
lots of people waiting on the new xbr2. please post a review when yours arrives. sould be very soon most preorders are saying around the 16th but some are saying 1st of oct. whens your projected delivery date?
JU1CYFRU1T
09-11-2006, 01:23 PM
It's in the same state of flux. As soon as Sony shipps the TV, the place I'm buying from will do a 'same day turn-around'. I'll let everyone know when I get a "your order has been shipped" email, as well as a full review.
hulkster081
09-11-2006, 04:48 PM
thanks for all the great replies guys. :cheers: im looking at the a2000 because of price mainly. my wife is BARELY letting me spend over $1500, so price is a big deal here if i plan on getting a new tv at all. im hoping that when the xbr2's come out, that the price will drop even more. my christmas bonus comes in on dec. 1st, so if its a pretty good one, i'll be able to get a nice wooden tv stand that my wife will tolerate, and my 50" tv!
astrohip
09-21-2006, 05:13 PM
I also forgot that the XBR2 has PIP, while the A2000 does not. There are definite reasons that the XBR2 is more money.
Are you sure? I've been looking at this model, debating between XBR2/3 or the 2500 series. AFAIK, neither has PIP.
JU1CYFRU1T
09-21-2006, 07:41 PM
Are you sure? I've been looking at this model, debating between XBR2/3 or the 2500 series. AFAIK, neither has PIP.
PLEASE CHECK THE MODEL NUMBERS!!!! :headb:
We are talking about the KDS-50A2000. We are not talking about the XBR2/3 flat pannel TVs (KDL-46XBR3, KDL-46XBR2, KDL-46V2500), we are discussing Sony's rear projection SXRD sets. The KDS-R60XBR2 has PIP, or more accurately a 'twin-view' set up where two 480i images can be placed side by side and watched at the same time, while the KDS-50A2000 does not.
Please make sure that you are talking about the correct model number please! This page (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=8ZwXeN0Kwh0XbZmfO84dc5IGLZQrOcXWek0=?CategoryName=hid_tv_newbravia&Dept=tvvideo) will show you all 4 different models.
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gparris
09-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Some like the A2000 series for its space-saving design and that fact the SXRDs finally have 1080p inputs.
As for me, my 60" XBR1 has everything I could want and the side speakers sort of grow on you after a time...the spouse actually saw them both side-by-side and said the speakers on the side give good design form. :D
If I ever could replace my 70" 720p LCD RPTV Hitachi with the 1080p 70" SXRD, I would have to get the matching stand (again) as its back is deeper.
Also the stand's 74.5 inch width is the same width with its speakers on, which CAN detach unlike the 60" XBR1 & XBR2 models, so no need.
But that is wider than the 73.8 inch width I have with my current set. :whistle:
I like my current SXRD set so much, the Hitachi tends to pale in comparison, but that is all I could afford at that time, as the Qualia was so very expensive and if you can find one, still is (found one at $9995).
hdtvtechno
09-23-2006, 12:09 AM
the XBR2 models have cablecard slots which the A2000 series do not have....