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lskarritt
10-02-2006, 08:09 PM
? Will LCD ever over take Plasma HDTV in 55 inch format's
I now have a 4 year old rear projection HD 55" and would like to up grade late next year. My brother told me to hold off He claims the LCD will get better in time and over take plasmas ?
damondlt
10-02-2006, 08:26 PM
No Way!! Plasmas are only going to get better too!Frankly ,,I think Plasmas Have a better picture anyway! The costs are coming down too!
DrewB
10-06-2006, 01:42 PM
They will. Guaranteed. New LCD technology has made them MUCH more brighter, and they're already far more dependable than plasma. If you don't believe it, go to CES in Vegas this January and just start counting LCDs and plasmas.
gparris
10-06-2006, 01:55 PM
In the discussion of display types, our FAQ section reveals the pros and cons of these flat panel displays quite clearly. :)
LCD panels have come a long way recently in regards to colour accuracy, contrast and black levels, quite close to plasma and prices are coming down.
Even the response time for fast motion sequences as in sports, movies and gaming has improved very close to plasmas, too.
When I have clients whose habits are leaving a set on all day, watch news channels or do gaming, or have the need to turn the sets on and off many times a day, I send them looking for the LCD panels vs. say, bulb-based sets (DLP, LCoS or LCD RPTVs) for the latter "habit".
As the LCD panels get larger and the prices fall closer to plasmas, I feel the LCD set sales will probably be even with plasmas.
Plasmas have a edge in some colour and contrast areas, but they suffer burn in over time, even if you follow the rules, as some of my clients have had to work hard to eliminate a local-station's channel icon as it burned in over time...believe it.
But for the most part, plasmas are still very cool in form factor, offer better value than ever as prices continue to drop and now, with the 50" Pioneer and 65" Panasonic 1080p models that are out or coming out soon, closer in resolution to most of the LCD flat panels out, already.
The closest set in 55" so mentioned in a LCD flat panel is the 52" Sony Bravia coming out or the Sharp 57" size, but these retail currently $6500 and $8,000 respectively in US dollars...still rather expensive compared to their plasma counterparts. :wow:
pradike
10-06-2006, 08:01 PM
Plasma? Yuck. :shootout:
Bad technology.
LCD 3-chip rear Projection - Yeah. :cheers:
Good technology.
gparris
10-06-2006, 10:59 PM
Plasma? Yuck. :shootout:
Bad technology.
LCD 3-chip rear Projection - Yeah. :cheers:
Good technology.
There is no perfect or best HDTV display technology, just one that best fits your eyesight and usage/needs, okay? :whistle:
This thread is about FLAT PANELS - not RPTVs.
Splicer
10-08-2006, 08:43 AM
I have always stated my next HDTV will be a LCD...But i don't expect having to worry about it for around 5+ or more years... :rockon:
gparris
10-08-2006, 11:31 AM
The newest batch of 52" LCD flat panels sets should very well fit in with your ideal set based on your current size, Splicer.
From the Sharp site:
http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1744,00.html
From the Sony site:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDL52XBR2&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_46to52
No burn in, better blacks and contrast with great, accurate colours and faster pixel response time - seems almost perfect for many.
Good luck shopping! :)
pradike
10-08-2006, 05:57 PM
This thread is about FLAT PANELS - not RPTVs.
It never said that.....excuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeee........ :bow:
P.S....plasma still sucks.... :whistle: :rofl2:
how can you say that, to me PLASMA rulz I've seen no other TV (as far as viewing) that has better PQ,it sucks for gamiming and SD TV but for HD and HD-DVD,DVD, :shootout: BLUE-RAY it is hands down the best.enjoy your lcd-rptv but get real.
lskarritt
10-10-2006, 06:11 PM
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As the LCD panels get larger and the prices fall closer to plasmas, I feel the LCD set sales will probably be even with plasmas.
Plasmas have a edge in some colour and contrast areas, but they suffer burn in over time, even if you follow the rules, as some of my clients have had to work hard to eliminate a local-station's channel icon as it burned in over time...believe it.
:wow:
LCD have a burn in and plasma do not ?
I thought they all had this licked.
Ratman
10-10-2006, 06:52 PM
LCD have a burn in and plasma do not ?
I thought they all had this licked.
Plasma's suffer from burn-in, LCD's do not. Can't be "licked", that's the law(s) of the technology and physics.
lskarritt
10-10-2006, 07:59 PM
Plasma's suffer from burn-in, LCD's do not.
Thanks This time next year I will be upgrading.
gparris
10-11-2006, 01:40 PM
Many plasmas have built in circuitry that the manufacturer claim eliminates most burn in, using "pixel orbiting", "pixel-shift" and so on.
If you leave plasma panels in "torch mode", as it usually comes out of the box (also called "vivid"), you can accelerate burn in with static images, but it is not as much of a problem as it was in the more recent past.
cnet rates the Pioneer and Panasonic plasmas very highly, along with some LCD panels as I trust their testing methods and it seems to be acccurate for my clients in real-world applications....just my thoughts here.
I recommend that you view both types of flat panel displays carefully, Iskarritt, watching the source material you will watch at home before you make the final decision, in the size you are going to buy, first. :D
Ratman
10-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Nonetheless... Plasma's can suffer from burn-in and/or phosphor aging the same as CRT. Without proper 'care and feeding', the average user can/will experience this fact of technology.
Agreed that pixel orbiting/shifting can help reduce the potential, but that doesn't make it immune.
And as a side note: I do agree that plasma has the edge when it comes to black levels and other PQ factors. But, another factor to take into consideration is power consumption. Plasma's are a little better now, but they still suck up the power compared to other technologies.
For those concerned about burn in on plasmas, please read the HDTV FAQ on "Burn in". Pixel shift will do nothing to avoid burn in from black bars or tickers because the shift is only a few pixels, designed to avoid burn in from logos for example.
A proper setup as mentioned will certainly help, also as indicated in the FAQ.
murf518
10-13-2006, 11:30 AM
Couple of points on this and my take:
1. Currently, the LCD to Plasma unit sales ratio is about 75% for screen sizes 37" and up, which is a large increase from where it ran prior to June at about 40%. This is data straight from NPD, a non-biased retailer center.
2. Sony exited the plasma market a couple of years ago to focus on LCD technology as the TV tech of the future.
3. At comparable sizes, plasma are currently cheaper than LCD, although almost all plasmas are 720P vs 1080P for new LCDs. Check the pricing for the models below:
LCD:
40" 1080P Samsung (LNS4095D) $2659.99
46" 1080P Samsung (LNS4695D) $3199.99
Plasma:
42" 720P Samsung (HPS4253) $1799.99
50" 720P Samsung (HPS5053) $2849.99
LCD prices should fall and larger sizes will be introduced, plus plasmas will have to switch to 1080P at some point which should close the price gap. My guess is that by next spring the LCD to Plasma ratio will be closer to 100%, and only increase from that point.
I'm holding out for a larger LCD. That said, if you see a plasma at a hot price, jump on it. It may not be quite as good a tech as LCD but its still pretty sweet.
97XBAM
10-14-2006, 06:50 PM
I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder , but plasma sets have always had an old tech CRT 'grainy' quality to me . LCD flat panel as it comes down in price will be the sets that really sell to the HD apprehensive consumers IMO .
Alloisus
10-15-2006, 03:50 PM
Thanks This time next year I will be upgrading.
By this time next year, I'd imagine things will be considerably different. SED might even be an option. Plasma may have more 1080P choices and might develope something that will really defeat burnin. A year is a long time for electronics, not to mention prices will be looking alot different.
lskarritt
10-15-2006, 04:58 PM
A year is a long time for electronics, not to mention prices will be looking alot different.
That's what I am hoping for.
gparris
10-16-2006, 01:23 PM
More and more LCD panel prices are dropping as manufacturing methods get better, so I will assume that sizes are going up to match plasma's larger screen sizes and prices.
With no burn-in, 1080p being still more commonplace than plasma, LCDs offering deeper blacks/contrast and faster response time, LCD panels could overtake some of the sales volume plasma now enjoys very soon. :D
