View Full Version : OTA not possible in NYC?
aj327
01-27-2003, 05:39 PM
I've been searching some sites about OTA availablity depending on what part of the country you're from. Living in Manhattan, only blocks away from the Empire State Building I figured reception wouldn't be a problem. Well it turns out that some people are having real difficulties getting any stations at all where I live. Do you suppose that the people who are setting up their antennas just don't know what they're doing, or is there really a problem. Why would it be so difficult to receive a signal that's being broadcasted not 6 blocks from where I live. Is there such a thing as being too close, is there interference caused by the traffic...what?
Could anyone help me out with this one?
Thanks,
-aj327
robmx
01-28-2003, 12:19 AM
Have you visited any of the high end audio video places around town? They will tell you don't even try.
New York was written off by Washington on this one. To satisfy special interest the big cities and all those folks who rely on OTA TV in the big cities were discarded.
Didn't have to be so. COFDM works like a charm in New York City. With a simple $140 receiver I guarantee you could drive all over Mnahattan without missing a beat. And that is mobile.
Unfortunately because of special interest we are stuck with $500 and up receivers that don't work. And they were never designed to work in the big cities.
The reason is multipath signals bouncing off all the buildings, traffic, people and planes.
COFDM loves mulltipath and multipath kills 8-VSB.
Bob Miller
aj327
01-28-2003, 01:54 AM
I'm sorry, could you explain to me what COFDM and 8-VSB are.
Thanks.
-aj327
DTC mac
01-28-2003, 04:09 AM
COFDM is RobMX's favorite stillborn child. (just a guess but if you look at the patent docs a certain name is pobably there)
NOTE TO ALL AGAIN COFDM IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR FCC SANCTCIONED OTA SO JUST GIVE IT UP.
aj327
01-28-2003, 04:42 AM
Yes but what is it? Were COFDM and 8-VSB vying for top dog and 8-VSB won out or something? Is 8-VSB superior in some way...maybe for long range transmission or something? I apologize if these questions seem uneducated but I'm curious to know why I can't receive a viable signal 6 blocks from the source...and what we gained by choosing the other technology. Is robmx right, about there being some kind of special interest conspiracy? There seem to be an awful lot of people who clearly thing robmx is full of it, so I'd like to hear what the opinion of the other side is. Why was 8-VSB chosen (if I even have the question right)?
-aj327
robmx
01-28-2003, 10:03 AM
8-VSB won out in a rigged and secret test over COFDM. This was after test in Australia and Taiwan caused both countries, against strong opposition from the US to actually change their previous decisions for 8-VSB to COFDM.
The whole world has chosen COFDM. With 8-VSB hardly any sales and no advertising of 8-VSB receivers is taking place. There is only one stand alone 8-VSB receiver being maufactured.
In the UK there are 15 manufacturers of COFDM recievers and more joining in every week. They are selling all the receivers they can make and increasing production. Here in the US the FCC has decided that because no one is stupid enough to buy 8-VSB receivers that they must be forced to buy them by law.
I can go on. It isn't pretty.