View Full Version : WANTED Recordings of Movies on HD
brecon
05-01-2003, 08:11 PM
Could anyone supply movies recorded in HD. I live in England and don't have the luxury of HD on Cable.Satellite. I have bought every D-Theatre movie available. I use these for demo's of are CRT Projectors. I would be prepared to pay good prices. Please if anyone could help i would be extreemly greatful.:) :) :)
brecon
05-01-2003, 09:03 PM
Just in case i have caused confussion i am after movies recorded in HD from Cable/Satellite, as the quality of them seems to exceed the movies pre-recorded on D-theatre. I have watched "Gladiator" recorded of cable and that was jaw dropping.
Thanks again.
Welcome to the forum. If I read you correctly, you want someone to record HD movies from Satellite and/or Cable and sell them to you for "commercial purposes". This is illegal and is not condoned by this forum. Any recording is to be for personal use only. Sorry.
I'm sure that more D-VHS movies should be available soon...
Feel free to discuss other legal subjects on this forum.
brecon
05-02-2003, 05:43 AM
Thanks 57U for the welcome. I have had a good read on this forum and find it a great source of information, well done. Just to clarify i use the D-Theatre movies i bought for personal demonstration only of our CRT projectors, but as i am a huge fan of HD movies and watch on 8ft wide screen i need that extra quality that DVD cannot supply. I would like to buy satellite/cable recordings for personal use and not for any other reason. Thanks again for your help.:) :) :)
Even for (your) personal reasons, the person at this end is performing an illegal act by taping the programme and selling the product. Only studios and authorized distributors are allowed to sell/rent copies of material.
This forum cannot endorse this activity. Again, sorry, but this forum is allowed only to discuss legal activity otherwise it is in danger of being shut down.
brecon
05-02-2003, 08:56 AM
Thanks, i understand:( :( :(
spaceman_spiff
05-02-2003, 12:15 PM
Well said 57. I dont think anyone could have been made any clearer and be polite at the same time.:)
Edited for Clarity. :D
brecon
05-02-2003, 12:44 PM
I agree:D :D :D
Johnwa
05-31-2003, 03:09 AM
I was just curious if is illegal to send someone a free copy.I have no plans of such...just wandering.particularly curious about OTA recordings since they are completely free to start with(As far as I know).
I doubt that would be illegal. I've come up with a pretty simple approach to what is legal and what is not.
1. It is illegal to make a copy of a copy.
2. It is illegal to make money (or gain favour) from copying material.
These two simple statements cover probably 99% of the "law" regarding copyright of material.
So, in Johnwa's example above, if you made a D-VHS tape for yourself and thought, hmm, "Fred" would like to see this, and gave it to Fred to see, then that's OK. However, if Fred paid you money to do so, or if you made a copy from your copy, instead of giving Fred the "original copy", then you'd be breaking the law.
The intent of the law is to prevent financial gain.
The above laws are for "individuals". The laws get more complex for businesses and educational instututions and cannot be discussed in such simple terms.
mhdiab
06-01-2003, 12:05 AM
57U - to late to find the facts, but here is my understanding of the law. Copies for personal use / backup are legal when it comes to copyrighted material. Any distribution of the material is illegal. Basically if you give your tape to Fred then Fred will not go rent / buy the movie and even though you didn't make money the movie industry lost money. Just like computer programs - you are allowed to back it up, but you cannot give it to other people so that they install it.
anyone?
Johnwa
06-01-2003, 05:02 PM
This would be true if it is the same as computer software,which oddly enough I've had training on in the Navy because we had a lot of people making "Backup" copies of Government purchased software.
kevinw
06-01-2003, 07:38 PM
I agree with Mhdiab...any distribution free or otherwise is or may be illegal. Too much gray area here. I doubt you would be prosecuted for taping Amazing Race and lending it to a friend but you could be in for trouble if you loaned all your copies of The Sopranos or made a copy and gave it to a friend.
Some information on --> Canadian Copyright... (http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml) and some "legal" interpretations. As you can see, the "copy of a copy" rule covers all but the example we discussed above (#4), which under Canadian law is illegal as indicated by kevinw and mhdiab (I should have known this too, but I forgot about it due to my "simplification rules given before"). On moral grounds, I object to the "loopholes" but the law is apparently the law.
The following is quite interesting...
The wording of the Copyright Act gives rise to some very odd situations. In the 6 examples below, "commercial CD" means a commercially pressed CD that you would normally buy at a retail store.
1. If someone steals a commercial CD, steals a blank CD-R, and then copies the commercial CD onto the CD-R, they are a thief, but they have not infringed copyright.
2. You can legally lend a commercial CD to a friend, give him a blank CD-R, let him use your computer, and help him burn the CD-R which he can keep for his own private use.
3. You can legally copy a commercial CD , keep the copy, and give your friend the original.
4. You cannot legally make the copy yourself and give your friend the copy.
5. Your friends Alice and Benoit really like the new commercial CD you just purchased. Alice borrows it and makes a copy for her own use. She then passes the commercial CD on to Benoit, who makes a copy for his own use. Benoit gives the commercial CD back to you. This is all perfectly legal.
6. However, if Alice had copied the commercial CD, given it back to you, and passed her copy on to Benoit to make a copy for his own use, then copyright would have "probably" been infringed. There is some doubt here because Alice's original intent is important. In the strictest terms, her copy was no longer just for her private use. Pretty strange considering that the end result of examples 5 and 6 are exactly the same!
mhdiab
06-02-2003, 07:34 AM
Interesting - I didn't think that number 2 and 5 was legal, which is pretty funny.
Wonder how that works with downloading music on the new legal pay sites.. In a sense you pay for the download so that is your original - if you send your original in an electronic file / even put your original file on a website all copies would be from the legally purchased original and it would all be fine - loophole I guess :)
