View Full Version : DVI Problem on HLN617W
ShackShock
07-23-2003, 09:55 PM
I'm currently using component inputs from my Samsung DirecTV HD receiver to my 61" HLN Samsung set. I've tried hooking up the DVI to see if it's a better picture, but it isn't working. When I go to the list of TV/Video inputs, it says it's connected, but when I select it, it says "No signal." Anyone have any ideas? The components look great, but just wanted to conduct a comparison of the two.
Lowpro
07-24-2003, 12:50 AM
Do you have the selector switch on the back of the SIR-TS160 set to DVI instead of Component/RGB?
ShackShock
07-24-2003, 08:21 AM
Yes, I do. Well, I'm officially an idiot. After switching between component and DVI, I can't tell a difference. I guess I'll save the DVI connection for that new DVD player if I ever break down and buy one.
irish1
07-24-2003, 01:35 PM
Shackshock---if you've got the hln 61" you owe it to yourself to get the HD931 DVD player. Will blow you away!
ShackShock
07-24-2003, 01:48 PM
My only fear, though, is that I'll drop a few hundred bucks for this, and then in a year or so, I'll have to buy an HD-DVD player when those come out. And if those players are backwards compatible, then this one becomes obsolete. Plus, I've currently got a Sony 200 disc DVD changer. No room in my cabinet for another component unless I get rid of the VCR or something else.
Maybe I'll go check it out, though.
aj327
07-24-2003, 01:54 PM
I'd personally recommend the Bravo over the Samsung anyway. The Bravo is only $200 and doesn't have the annoying default to wide problem that the Samsung does. Apparently you can't watch 4:3 movies in their OAR with the Samsung. Not sure if this would bother you or not - but hey, you'll at least be saving around $150 bucks.
I think Irish1 said in another post he got it for about $265.
irish1
07-24-2003, 02:08 PM
Yes, I did get it for $265, so that makes the price difference negligible. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for HD DVD, and I have a HD cable box and have to say that the difference between HD and the DVD's I play on this new unit is VERY minor. But, I understand that it gets frustrating constantly throwing money in the qwest for the best pq. As for your rack space, put the VCR in the bedroom.
spaceman_spiff
07-24-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by irish1
As for your rack space, put the VCR in the bedroom.
My VCR has been permanently promoted to the bedroom. Poor thing, still works great after all these years of heavy use.
aj327
07-24-2003, 02:31 PM
My parents have a Pansonic VCR from 1984 I believe. It's heavy as all hell and I think the remote was wired (before we lost it). The thing still works like a charm. We've gone through 5 or 6 VCRs in the past few years, but this one has outlasted them all. I guess they really don't make them like they used to.
irish1
07-24-2003, 03:18 PM
Not to get too far off thread, but I too have a VCR from 1984 that still works like a charm! My kids use (read: abuse) it now and its a tank! A JVC that I bought in December 84 to tape the Super Bowl with Miami and San Fransisco!
aj327
07-24-2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by irish1
Yes, I did get it for $265, so that makes the price difference negligible.
I agree that $65 isn't a big deal, but not being able to watch 4:3 movies in their OAR is a deal breaker for me. Apparently the default to wide problem doesn't happen when you use component cables so that may be a saving grace for some users, but with DVI you can only watch things stretched. Given that some of my best stuff is 4:3 (Imax and such) AND that I have a DLP TV that pretty much requires the use of DVI, the Bravo seems like the better bet.
ShackShock
07-24-2003, 05:04 PM
Next HLN61 question: I tried hooking up a PS2 to it, but there was a delay on the video. I'd hit a button to swing a bat, for instance, and I was always a split second too late. I was using the regular video input on the side of the unit. I'm guessing there was some sort of video processing that was causing the delay. No big deal, since I just moved it to my 36" Wega upstairs, but was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem?
Otherwise, this TV is awesome!
sanjar
09-13-2003, 12:20 PM
ShackShock,
I was in a store yesterday and was comparing the HLN617W with the 65" and 73" Mitsubishis which are my first choice. How did you make your decision on the Samsung?
The 720P is important to me since I can hook up my PC to it but I was looking for at least 65" in size. Any recommendations?
Do you know what kind a picture you get if you hook up a PC to a Mitsubishi?
ShackShock
09-18-2003, 07:12 PM
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I chose the Samsung for a number of reasons.
1) newer technology that has no burn-in and don't have to worry about convergence. only have to worry about replacing a $300 bulb every few years.
2) it fit on my existing stand that I had used for a 36" Wega, thus removing the need to spend more money on a rack or shelf for my components
3) 61 inches was plenty big, and I couldn't tell a real difference between 720p and 1080i.
4) integrated well with the samsung STB I purchased, and plenty of video inputs
5) much smaller in overall size. only 19 inches deep, and doesn't have that huge boxy look
hope this helps. I've had mine for almost 3 months now, and absolutely love it. now if we can just get a few more channels, or if I could get off my lazy butt and get an OTA antenna
sanjar
09-19-2003, 09:27 PM
Thanks ShackShock.
I am still debating and now have added the 65" DLP Optomo to my list. I hope to make my decision soon. I can't wait any longer for HDTV.
2hightec
11-27-2003, 02:28 PM
I have the 617W and the Samsung DVD (with Dvi).
Anyone know how to make the 617 auto select the input (between COMPONENT and Dvi) ??
I'm not sure about the Sammy, but most TVs do not "autoselect" one type of input over another.
As a matter of fact, some TVs warn against putting more than one component (connection) into one input since it could damage the set. (Some TVs have component and DVI on the same input, so that's why I mention it)
Even if no damage results, the TV usually picks the "higher" resolution input and ignores the other.
On my Hitachi, you can get the TV to turn on automatically if you have a signal going to the appropriate component video input, but I don't think that's what you're asking... I do this every evening by turning on my A/V Receiver/STB - the TV turns on automatically to "input 4" as soon as it senses a signal.
2hightec
11-27-2003, 02:45 PM
Maybe the PIONEER I used to have spoiled me. Then the question becomes how to use descrete remote codes to select between (for example) COMPONENT2 and DVi .... I suppose I could just run the DVD (Samsung with DVI) thru COMPONENT - but it seems a shame to lose a feature (especially as I replaced a 2 month old SONY DVD player with the SAMSUNG just for the DVi).
Ultimately - I'd like to get the Crestron controller to talk to the TV -- I got it working with the SUMSUNG DVD (by using a mixture of older SUMSUNG DVD codes).
Do you happen to know ehere the damn IR receiver is on the 617W ?? -- it appears that the entire scree area picks up IR codes but ONLY the screen area.
Any cool things to do with the RS232 ??
If you've got the Sammy 931, you should stick with the DVI connection as the component video output of this unit is "inferior" and should not be used.
Remotecentral.com may have the remote codes you're looking for, for direct access to inputs - you'd need a separate programmable remote probably.
That's one of the reasons I purchased Hitachi - direct access to inputs and aspect ratio memory on each input. (See the FAQ "If only I'd have known".)
The IR receiver is usually near any panel (I'm not familiar with your TV). Shine a bright light (from a flashlight) against the darker portions of the TV panel and you can usually see the "red" eye of the IR receiver.
