Satellite and my new HDTV

[idrawrx]

I just bought a brand new 55" Mitsubishi WS55859 with built in HD receiver. Couple of days ago, I have also signed up for dishnetwork satellite service. I am currently receiving signal strength anywhere from 105-115(125 is max), but I am also running 135ft. of rg-6 coaxial cable.
My problem is the fuzzy, blurry, and out of focus type of picture that I am receiving from my HDTV. I am assuming that it can't be the satellite because my signal strength is very high, averaging around 112, and from the max being 125 I am starting to think that it might just be the TV.
I have tried everything from reconnecting everything to setting different variation of pictures, and even tried out the in line satellite amplifire, but nothing has been fixed. Everything is still the same.
The picture is really not that bad, but you know that something is wrong because it will start hurting your eyes from the on and off type of blurriness.
I really expected some brillant pictures.

Can anyone give some good advice, or a way to fix this?

Thanks in adavnce.:cool:

[Ratman]

I would recommend that you contact the retailer and have them send a tech to properly adjust the set (focus, convergence, etc).

[zarlor]

This may be a dumb question, but are you getting blurry pictures on HDTV channels or only on the "regular" stations?

[idrawrx]

Well, as of now I only signed up for top 150 channels from dishnetwork. I am currently only receiving whatever the regular dishnetwork top 150 signal they are sending me(my tv states 480i). I don't think is high defenition.
One thing that is also confusing me is that, if I play proggressive scan DVD the picture comes out brillant(480p). There are no sign of blurriness or any type of focus problem.
So what do you guys think? Do you think that it might be due to over 100 ft. of coaxial cable that I am running from the dish to the receiver? but if the long cable was the problem would I still be receiving very high signal strenghth(avg. 112)?

Thanks for the reply guys.:)

[AdminJoe]

Regular channels on dish or directtv or cable tv will be pretty brutal looking on your tv, as well as 95% of the other Rear projection tv's out there....
DVD will be incredible, and as soon as you see a 1080i feed, it will blow your mid...

[sts3001]

Unfortunately both Dish Network and Directv use lots of video compression.....result in fuzzy or out of focus
look.....
The only way you will receive good satellite video is to receive it from the main source.....C-Band satellites...same
ones Dish Network and Directv (and cable companies) get theirs....but they degrade the picture(compressions)
then re-uplink to people with mini dishes.. ....so you need the old "BUD" to receive clean analog and digital
signals....lots of bandwidth available on the C-Band satellites... more programming at lower costs...equipment
costs are higher , but just like paying for good audio, video equipment...you get what you pay for....and yes I do
have a "BUD"...Had a mini dish....it's gone!
Even an outside OTA antenna strong analog signal looks better than Dish Network and Directv.....

[idrawrx]

Originally posted by AdminJoe
Regular channels on dish or directtv or cable tv will be pretty brutal looking on your tv, as well as 95% of the other Rear projection tv's out there....
DVD will be incredible, and as soon as you see a 1080i feed, it will blow your mid...

The part that is really frustrating me is that I have been a dish network customer for 3yrs. Before my new HDTV, I had a big screen toshiba projection TV that I have bought from sam's club. The picture quality on that projection was just excellent from dishnetwork. Now that I have spent over 3000 dollars on this new HDTV don't you think that the picture quality should be at least a little better? or at least the same?
I don't understand how the picture quality is even worst now. Is this normal particularly for HDTV's?

Thanks for the help guys.
:)

[sts3001]

The new HD TV's have built-in line doublers, each manufacturer has their own name for.....You probably notice how good DVD's look, clean(no lines)verses your older TV where as the lines were more noticable....So due to these line-doubling digital enhancements in HDTV's, the source becomes real important....
Dish Network & Directv supply less than perfect signals because the digital compressions they use and your new TV is showing the imperfections of that signal...You know it's not your TV, because DVD's look good....

C-Band is the frequency name of the satellites used.....
Most programming originates from those....It is the master broadcasts that cable tv companies use, along with Dish Network & Directv.... They take the master source and do whatever to it, digital compress, to fit as many channels they can in what they have to work with(bandwidth)...So the more channels they add the worst the picture gets....
But if you pick up the C-Band satellite signals yourself, your picture will look as good as a DVD in most cases... A C/KU-Band system is the large satellite dishes 6' and up(the dishes are mostly black mesh type now, not the older solid white ones of the past)......Unfortunately, some areas prohibit these because of size....

[Wooger]

FYI...

If you want KU too, you will (obviously) need the dual-LNB (C-KU) horn, AND... you will need the solid dish, as opposed to the mesh. Although I have heard of KU being recieved on mesh dishes, they have to be pretty big (like 11 foot?) and the signal is VERY weak. KU actually shoots the gaps in the mesh dishes, as the frequency is WAAAAY up there. 'S why they don't make mesh DSS dishes too, btw.

[sts3001]

Yes a C/KU Band feedhorn is required for both bands....
A solid dish is NOT required as long as the mesh dish holes are less than a pencil head size .....
I use a 5.8' mesh dish for all my KU news and sports feeds....and a 7.5' and 10' for other hundreds(1000+ actually) of analog/digital C and KU Band programming....

[kevinw]

Give your TV some time to break in -about a 100 hours of gradual use. Then pick up an Avia disc or something similar and adjust your color/contrast etc. You will then a have much improved analog picture.
Analog will almost always appear softer when viewing film based material vs video taped material.
As other have said once tuned up HD and DVD's will amaze.