New Forum - HDRadio

[AdminJoe]

I thought some might be interested in this technology.

Click Here (http://www.hd-radio.com/hdradio/index.htm) to learn more about HDRadio!

[sto22]

I see that Crutchfield is selling HDRadio Tuners/Receivers, etc. by Kenwood and Panasonic.

Is their a listing of stations that are transmitting yet? I do listen to the radio a lot and CD quality FM would be nice.

I bet any home audio tuners will have copy protection.

sto22

[JETninja]

Click on a state...

http://www.ibiquity.com/hdradio/hdradio_hdstations.htm

[sto22]

Thanks,

I'll wait for it to build up steam.

One station, 300 miles away, and it's the Lutheran Church.

sto22

[Eyedox]

I find it hillarious that there is not ONE station in Kansas City that is on the list, yet a small Lutheran station is. I am Lutheran and all, good for them, but it is kind of pathetic that large commercial stations haven't started upgrading their equipment yet! How frustrating for us early adopters!

[Kal Rubinson]

Since the first link offered does not work and the second one provides little useful info (map supposed to be clickable isn't):

Would some one comment on how this deserves the label HD? In what way is it either High Definition (or Heavy Duty)?

Kal

[Ratman]

Read here:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=1&article_id=438&page_number=1

[Kal Rubinson]

Thanks for the links. I know both of the authors and their comments are similar to my experiences at CES with HD radio.

Again, there's not much numerical info but I still see no justification for the HD label. "150 kbps of which 96 kbps is used for main-channel audio" seems a far cry from the substrate for high definition.

[Ratman]

It's just a label for markting IMO. Just jumping on a term that people can relate to as 'higher quality'.

I think it's good direction nonetheless. Almost CD quality on FM and FM quality on AM.

[JETninja]

Since the first link offered does not work and the second one provides little useful info (map supposed to be clickable isn't):

Would some one comment on how this deserves the label HD? In what way is it either High Definition (or Heavy Duty)?

Kal

It's clickable for me...sounds like you need to upgrade IE or settings or something.


Lot's of SoCal stations (well...a few...even one I like) but right now I only see one tuner (car) from Kenwood....$400. I'll wait a bit......

[57U]

Yeah, my IE6 at work works, but IE5 on my Mac at home doesn't.

[sto22]

Maybe a couple of auto manufacturers will jump on board and offer OEM options. Other than the hardware, it's free and consumers are used to free radio.

I'm sure both "coasts" will be where the initial saturation will be. Develop where the people and the money are.

sto22

[bigassbike]

How is the signal strength? Is it any different that standard radio?

Thanks

[sto22]

I'm assuming it's like Digital TV, It's all or nothing.

sto22

[Ratman]

I would assume that consistent reception would be similar to a cell phone. Probably better... but I would think that there would be occasional 'burps'.

Can't say for sure... 'cause I don't spend enough time in my car to pay to justify ~$10 per month when FM sounds good enough for me. Plus... local news/weather.

Just my opinion...

EDIT: Dang! I was on the satellite radio tangent. But my first opinon may hold true for "HD" radio too. The second is satellite. Sorry for the confusion... had some 'distractions' to deal with.

[sto22]

I would assume that consistent reception would be similar to a cell phone. Probably better... but I would think that there would be occasional 'burps'.


Yeah, what does "pixellation" sound like? :D

I think HD Radio is being geared toward "free" radio though, It's supposed to be radios' equivalent of OTA DTV. HD is a little misleading, it should be called Digital Radio. I'd call it HD radio when they can broadcast SACD or DVD-Audio material.

I agree with you on pay radio (XM, Sirius) I'm not in the car enough to justify it.

sto22

[jsun37]

To the moderator do you know of any home hd radio receivers I can buy I have been following this technology for a while I already have xm its ok but this sounds better

[Ratman]

HD Radio should have better fidelity. Not aware of any in home receivers. I'll snoop around...

Also... keep in mind that the channel choices are VERY slim, even in large metropolitan areas.

[Hawkeye]

My local radio stations are on my satalite, and they sound much better on there when I listen to it over my AVR's tuner. Much like the difrence that one of the links provided. So while I can see a use for it in the car I would have no use for a home reciever.
Of course, many people may not have their local radio stations on their satalite but it seems to me like those would be the people that live in smaller comunities, the ones that it will take the longest for HD radio to penitrate...

[KimmiKat]

Has anyone picked up the static the digital signals cause?

In our area (San Francisco) several FM and MW stations are broadcasing the
digital signals and some on the MW band you would heard this "hash" sound on your radio. If you have a digital radio, it does sounds good though, but they need to work in the interference issue. There are some threads on a usenet group (ba.broadcast) that talk about how bad HDRadio interferes with the analogue signal. They should made it a seperate band like they did in Canada for digital radio.

[hydef]

The only thing wrong with any radio be hires or lores they have commercial breaks, I have a great sounding CD player fully tweaked and matching timbre(not a typo), listening to Sound tracks like "Enigma" 2001 sound truly great and there are no crappy commercials.

O/T the reason I stopped cable or satellite was because of the high content of commercials, especially when 60 minutes became 40 minutes! I will not ever use my radio just the CD player in my 2005 Subaru Legacy 4 door Sdn.

[TV Dxer]

Has anyone trys to DX the digital signals on AM or FM bands and what kind of receivers do you use?

Since I am still thinking to buy the digital radio receiver manly just for DXing! :D

[mase63425]

Does anyone know what cars or trucks will have HD radios built in?

[potisyourfriend]

It's just a label for markting IMO. Just jumping on a term that people can relate to as 'higher quality'.

I think it's good direction nonetheless. Almost CD quality on FM and FM quality on AM.


I would love to hear my Sports Station (which I listen to all day at work) on the AM dial in CD Quality...


RACK ME, I AM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ratman]

...on the AM dial in CD Quality...

You'll have to settle for FM quality with HDRadio AM.

[potisyourfriend]

You'll have to settle for FM quality with HDRadio AM.



LOL, yeah I tend to not read the entire post or forget......


Noticed the person I quoted said it plain as day.........

[nowisee]

HD radio can broad cast surround sound or multiplex programing. It is likely that if the signal Pixels it will sound like a CD that doesn't track well with the high pitch clicking. I don't like the term HD radio but audio buffs sometimes describe audio in terms of difinition. XM and Cirrus have already made the most of the PR value of the term "digital radio" so I guess they had no where else to go; in addition HD is in the public eye because of television so the term is already known. I look forward to the change. I see no reason why there would be a differance in tuning it in. I get some television channels with good quality that have analog signals so filled with multipath they're not watchable.