Eyedox

I was in my local Wal-Mart today and noticed that they added a plethora of new HDTV's finally in the widescreen 16:9 format from Phillips, RCA, etc. There original HD sets were all 4:3. They are widescreen HD "ready" sets. They even have a new 30" widescreen direct view CRT TV. Too bad I don't give Wal-Mart any of my money.

mikehbkwm

NOOOOOO DAMNNNNNNNN WAYYYYYYYY....

you know somethings up when Wally World is selling pioneer HD sets heres a link and i was laughing the whole time i saw this

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...4%3A3987%3A3996

I wonder how old that model is...1 to 2 years old........

im still laughing ahahhahhahahahahahahah look at all the models they have........

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57U

Damn, I hate it when things go mainstream.

I'm no longer on the "cutting edge".

Time to find a new hobby.

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FullBandwidth

Well, triathlon is big now, so you could take your unique format mainstream - Moderate, Cycle, Run ...

57U

Sounds good, although I swim, I've never been competitive - too "dense" , I cycle weekends, I run on evenings when I don't cycle, and I moderate (well I post anyway) when possible.

Running was "interesting" this afternoon. Temperature was 38.4 C, with a "humidex" (I think you say "heat index") of 47C. I think that's above 115F... Many glasses of water today and a good Belgian beer and I feel great - temperature has dropped to 32C now on my Davis Instruments Weather Station. The "Great White North..."

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DoubleDAZ

If you could handle that, you should summer in Phoenix, it's a daily thing here!

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57U

Yep, summer of 1980, stayed in Phoenix when the temperature was in the mid-40's - around 120F. It was a dry heat though. Many people died that summer in the southern US. I remember having to open the hotel room door using a towel because it was literally too hot to touch the doorknob. Cicadas were buzzing like crazy and we couldn't walk barefoot on the concrete at midnight because it was still too hot from the day. Very memorable. Sorry, got off topic again...

Hope the fires south of you are contained soon.

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BigJohn

I decided to leave Tucson in 1992 when a summer overnight low was 90 degrees.

What was the topic again?

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lonestar

I feel that 57U, I was staining my deck today and I had to stop because my sweat kept mucking up the wet stain. And I'll be dead before I stain my deck in a headband. I'm a maniac, maniac that's.........nevermind.

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DoubleDAZ

Well, I deliver mail here, so I'm out in it for more than 6 hours a day. Once I get out of the office, I really don't let it bother me much, I won't melt. Besides, it beats delivering the mail when it's -10 and the wind is blowing in a midwest winter (originally from Wisconsin).

As for the topic, there really isn't much more to say. Seems like the first post said what needed to be said, though I must admit I had to chuckle at 57's 'cutting edge" comment.

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spaceman_spiff

Whew, its been hot here in DC area. 105F.

We had 3 months of rain and now we have heat wave.
Had been out shuttling to customers offices for meetings all week, boy its hot out there.

spaceman_spiff

Cant imagine listening to the uneducated statements made by the salesmen in WALMART on HDTV.

FullBandwidth

I submit that Wally World's business model is based entirely on the consumer who buys on price - that kind of consumer really doesn't need any technical info. Hell, people buy bicycles (Schwinn no less) there, who knows if they've been put together by competent people, to save a few bucks over going to a bike store where you'll actually get something that won't fall apart in 2 weeks.

People will buy cheap HDTVs at WalMart, even if 30% of them return them, it still increases the penetration of the product into the market. Which for all of us fanatics here, can actually be a good thing, as it incentivises producers to put more HD content onto the network.

mhdiab

or it can be a bad thing based on incorrect information and people going home installing the TV expecting two hundred HD channels - complaining like crazy when they don't get it - returns the tv and loudly announce to anybody that will listen that HD sucks and they sure didn't see a better picture........

It can go two ways - there has to be more general info out there that tells the consumer what HD material is available and how to receive it.....

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Wooger

No different than buying your HDTVs at Sears really... Except Sears has a bit of the higher-browed folks! Not as many sticky kid fingerprints on the screens at Sears. But, since you are purchasing a sealed boxed unit, I don't imagine you'll even notice the difference.

You don't go to the stores to view the actual demos, right? We all do that online, and when we finally go to the store, it is to purchase only?! Well, maybe not, but that is the idea at least. If you MUST do a comparison, maybe do the high-end stores (that stocks what Walmart stocks? LOL!) and THEN buy it at Wally's deep-discounted price!

IMHO

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MickeyGee

I agree. Remember also that Walmart's business model is: high volume at low prices. This would indicate that they foresee being able to sell large numbers of HDTV units at the right price point. In turn, this should drive price competition amongst the other retails (BB, CC, etc.). All in all, a good thing.

FullBandwidth

Well consider this: how many consumers ran out and bought PCs when they ran DOS 2.1 and had 16 colors? It's a heck of a lot harder to do anything useful on that than it is to get a picture on your new Walmart HDTV. But people bought them in droves, drove the prices down and expectations of quality up, until today you actually get something worthwhile when you buy a PC at Walmart (or anywhere else).

We all tossed our DOS PCs in a landfill a long time ago and never looked back. Will the same thing happen with the HDTVs we're buying today? I'd put a dollar on it...and apparently so would Sam Walton's heirs...

woodman

Buying an HDTV from Sears makes some sense. Buying one from Wal-Mart makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever! Why? There are a whole bunch of reasons, such as the following:

1. Sears carry genuine models from a mfg. line ... the same sets you'd find at any authorized seller of that brand. What's for sale at Wal-Mart will be stripped down models with DIFFERENT model #s from those from the regular lineup of that mfg.

2. Sears carry a variety of models from a half-dozen or more manufacturers. Wal-Mart will probably only offer a couple of sets from two - possibly three companies.

3. Sears have their own service departments to keep the set performing throughout the original warranty period, and (if you have the good sense to purchase more coverage), for an additional number of years after that. Wal-Mart will NEVER have any TV service dept. of it's own ... ever! Translation: the future of a set purchased there will be in the hands of questionable independent servicers - underpaid - understaffed - and with absolutely NO concern for your happiness or contentment.

4. Sears have a vested interest (more so than ANY other retailer) in making sure you're happy with your purchase. They want to sell you tons of the other stuff that they carry. Wal-Mart is probably at the extreme other end of that particular spectrum.

Enough?

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Wooger

Dear God. So many flaws, so little time.

OK, I will use small words so you can keep up:



I am not saying go to Wal-Mart and buy a DIFFERENT model. That would defeat the whole prupose of scoping out a specific model and then buying it there for cheap. DUH! You scope out your favorite model elsewhere, then buy it at the cheapest place... online, Wal-Mart, etc. Since I don't exactly trust anyone where you cannot pay the money then walk out the door with the item (cannot do that online, CAN at Wally's) I have no qualms buying a factory sealed unit from Walmart (or, more specifically, Sam's Club).



...so you check to see if the cheap place (Walmart/Sam's) has the one you have chosen in stock... if not, move on. If you want a Hitachi or Mitsubishi... yeah, I'd have to agree that Wally's ain't gonna stock it probably. BUT IF THEY DO CARRY IT, AND PRICE IT CHEAPER, then you buy it there. Seemed pretty straightforward. I am guessing most people understood this rationale. If Wally's doesn't stock it, you cannot buy it from them. Again, DUH! I am not advocating Wally's as the high-tech haven. I am saying that if they have your chosen model in stock, why not save a few bucks and buy it from them?

Let's continue...



My Sears has NO TV service department that I am aware of. I believe that Sear's has quit servicing TVs (and Hi-Fi equipment and telephones, etc.) for decades now. In this day and age, the multi-brand TV repairman is a vanishing species, you know this all to well I am sure as a retired . The bigger companies defer to the brand-specific servicing. If a Sony breaks down, there is an authorized Sony Serviceperson for your area that is contracted to come to your house and fix your Sony TV. Likewise RCA, etc. If Sears STILL has a multi-brand service dept. and fixes them themselves, then they are the only big outlet left that does so. Walmart would be no different than BB, CC, or any of the other big conglomorate fellas that farm everything out to the brand-specific techs.

Next.



Sears is out to make me happy?!? Is that why they stopped honoring their lifetime guarantees on their tools? I just recently discovered that it now costs extra for that wonderful Sears warranty. I honestly believe that Sams and Walmarts are trying just as hard as ANY retailer to make you happy, including Sears. Don't get me wrong, my customer satisfaction with Sears is MUCH higher than with Sams or Walmart, but not enough that I would eschew Sams/Walmart if the price was much cheaper. The explanation above, that Sears "...wants to sell you tons of other stuff that they carry..." holds ture for ANY retailer, INCLUDING Sams and Walmart.



No, not really? What caused the crappy attitude? I don't recall pissing in your wheaties this morning? I was merely observing that if the model exists cheaper at Walmart than 'Stans House Of Insanely Priced TVs' and that they are both the EXACT SAME MODEL and both are still factory boxed, why support the price gouger? You jumped on it like I was the next Hitler. As you have done with me before. I am not sure if you are needing a refill on your meds but try and keep in mind that this board is about HELPING PEOPLE and not personal flamewars.

Feel free to respond ad naseum. I am now putting your tripe on the same frequency as RobMX... my personal BLOCKED LIST. Just don't expect any response from me anymore. The only way I will see anything you post is via quotes from those with the stomach to actually reply to you.

Have a nice day Mr. Woody!

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