Goddahavit

I know it is posted by 57U that with current technology DVD will not record HD.

I am curious, I have a MITS ws48511, I am recieving HD from an antenna, I hav an SVID/monitor out, will HD be passed through that moniitor port, I know not in 1080I, but will it be downgraded so I may record it? or would nothig show??

I am considering a DVD recorder, like the Panisonic dmr 80s, with the hard drive, and I want to know what I will and will not be able to record.

these units are starting to become afordable, but If I wait for a firewire DVD I am sure they will be very expensive, and I do not know when they will be out.

any thoughts Guys?

57U

I know that some STBs can be set to downconvert HD to the S-video out, however, I'm not sure TVs do that. I know someone with a different TV and the s-vid is "blank" when an HD input is chosen.

If you have an S-VCR you could try it to see if you can record anthing. You could perhaps even try the composite out (if the TV has one) to feed a VCR (VCRs need to be set to the correct input - channel 0 or "line in" or something like that).

Perhaps someone with a similar setup will let you know for sure.

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Goddahavit

ok, I guess I need to try a vcr and see if the input (puts out)ha,
I do not have component out, only svid, and rca

I found this in the manual,

� Output (Monitor and PIP)
The Monitor Output sends the TV audio and video signals from Ant-A, Ant-B and Inputs 1-5 to an A/V
Receiver or other analog A/V equipment. Monitor Output will also provide the signals, converted to analog
signals, received from Ant-DTV and IEEE-1394 products. There will be no video signals from digital
products if the original signals are copy protected.
From VGA, Component 1 and 2 and Input-DTV, no signals will be sent.

Do you now if the OTA High def is copy protected?

57U

OTA is not copy protected. At this time, I don't think anything is copy protected.

You can test the VCR first with SD signals (to make sure you've got it set up properly) and then try an HD channel to see if it gets downconverted.

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HokieD

I'm curious about this too. I can watch HD channels in standard defintion mode and it looks better than my usual 480i DirecTV channels. I'm guessing I can record the HD channel video in standard mode and have a cleaner std. definition recording. Not HD, but still decent. I gotta get a VCR hooked up to my system to see if it works.

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Samsung SIR-T150 OTA Decoder (Excellent OTA Decoder)

sillygoose

Don't forget that VCR resolution is less than SD. While a DVD recorder can't record HD if you are interested in preserving the high quality you perceive in downconverted HD than that is probably the route to take if you don't want a hard drive based recorder.

I almost forgot about SVHS. I don't know the resolution off the top of my head but that might be a good solution for you as well.

57U

Regular VCRs have about 240 lines.

S-VHS VCRs have up to 400 lines (I've seen some cheap S-VHS machines that don't look much better than regular VCRs).

DVD recorders have 480 lines at high recording speeds (1-2 hours typically). This drops to 240 lines at lower recording speeds (longer recording times 4-8 hours.)

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HokieD

Ooo! DVD recorder, which I don't have yet, but was thinking about picking one up for my PC. Would love to have recorded the VT-Miami game to DVD in 480 lines of resolution.

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DirecTV HR20 HD DVR Receiver (Still laggy, lost some features I had with E86)
16:9 Sony KP-57HW40
Yamaha RX-V520
Boston Acoustics System 8000
Sony DVPNC655PB DVD Changer
ProntoNeo
XBOX 360 ( Elder Scrolls: Oblivion)

Other Experiences:
DirecTV H20 HD Receiver (Laggy, Couldn't Wait to Dump It)
Hughes E86 Platinum Receiver (More User Friendly than H20)
Scientific Atlantic Explorer 3100HD (Time Warner Digi-Cable)
Samsung SIR-T150 OTA Decoder (Excellent OTA Decoder)

Goddahavit

Thanks to a CC open box, I have a dvd burner, unless i return it

Here is What I have found, my ws-48-511 does output the downgraded high def signal through the monitor port, and I can record it on dvd ram, (i got the pani,e30) and it is in widescreen I am still playing with settings, but no doubt it is better than vcr recording, (at sp mode, or better)and it is full screen, as my tv will not alow me to stretch component , this is good, it is hard to record cause when I switch inputs to the dvd, i get no pic, comes from the output of the tv, needs to be on the antenna, or other signal to record anything.

that said, I would like to have a htpc, but am still looking into the practicality of it, and price, I would love the recorder with the drive, but I am hopeing this will hold me till the HD buners come out and get affordable.

as always, the waf(wife aceptnce factor) is inlimbo untill she sees the benifits, and not playing in other dvd players is not a plus, I am going to try the dvd-r recording after I get a bulk of disks.
I am sure I will make a few coasters.

But I can record from OTA (downgraded of corse)

P.S. any ifo onthe hard drive based recorder that sillygoose mentioned would be appreciated.

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57U

Panasonic make several. E-60/80/100.

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Panasonic_DMR-E80_DVD

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